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    Thanks for that link, its really helpful. I think your right, compared to those "it should be like this" pictures, my setup is really bad! my brake is pretty much the same as the bad position picture, I have to twist my angle slightly in for rear brake, and I have to move my foot a lot to reach the gear lever to change gears, as in use a kicking motion to reach lol. My fiancee did adjust the lever for me when I first got the bike but I dont think it can move any closer ill have to check this out.

    And yup I have a gym membership Ill ask my trainer about getting into a routine to improve neck/shoulder muscles too, anything that will help!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bald Eagle View Post
    Wash your mouth out. Public transport is always my least preferred method of getting anywhere.
    You're right, that wasn't helpful was it....
    ....perhaps a bungy from the helmet strap to the bars, keeps the head reasonably steady

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    Quote Originally Posted by nomnomnom View Post
    Thanks for that link, its really helpful. I think your right, compared to those "it should be like this" pictures, my setup is really bad! my brake is pretty much the same as the bad position picture, I have to twist my angle slightly in for rear brake, and I have to move my foot a lot to reach the gear lever to change gears, as in use a kicking motion to reach lol. My fiancee did adjust the lever for me when I first got the bike but I dont think it can move any closer ill have to check this out.

    And yup I have a gym membership Ill ask my trainer about getting into a routine to improve neck/shoulder muscles too, anything that will help!
    Good points from Mr. Deuce.

    On every bike we've had, I've moved the gear shifter down a notch. MY foot can't bend upwards enough to shitft up gears - god knows why my foot is so inflexible or what dislocated orangutans design the ergonomics on modern bikes!

    You can buy span adjustable aftermarket levers for the hands and new rearsets (foot pegs and foot controls) to fix these problems with limited factory items.

    don't put up with controls that don't suit your feet and hand positions. These need to be natural or fatigue or error will occur.
    Quote Originally Posted by FlangMaster
    I had a strange dream myself. You know that game some folk play on the streets where they toss coins at the wall and what not? In my dream they were tossing my semi hardened stool at the wall. I shit you not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nomnomnom View Post
    Thanks for that link, its really helpful. I think your right, compared to those "it should be like this" pictures, my setup is really bad! my brake is pretty much the same as the bad position picture, I have to twist my angle slightly in for rear brake, and I have to move my foot a lot to reach the gear lever to change gears, as in use a kicking motion to reach lol. My fiancee did adjust the lever for me when I first got the bike but I dont think it can move any closer ill have to check this out.

    And yup I have a gym membership Ill ask my trainer about getting into a routine to improve neck/shoulder muscles too, anything that will help!
    Had a google of the 250 bandits and if yours is standard as they look in the pic Click image for larger version. 

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ID:	225680 and you shouldn't have to be stretching your neck to see, Prob. more head wind plus tensing issues creating the stress pain !
    I wouldn't panic and sell your bike, just take your time, ride on sunny days and work on strengthening yr neck (it'll come naturally over time and rides anyway), sort your controll issues as JD pointed out and breath, things should fall into place !
    A girlfriend once asked " Why is it you seem to prefer to race, than spend time with me ?"
    The answer was simple ! "I'll prolly get bored with racing too, once i've nailed it !"

    Bowls can wait !

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    Another idea is treating your daily ride like an exercise routine, which means a warm up and warm down at either end.
    Do some extensive stretches before, with and without helmet, make sure you're loosening up all areas of the neck and shoulders, (you'll find this'll help you loosen up a bit while riding too) and warm down after the ride, so stretches again, and getting hubby or somebody to give you some a good old neck rub. Eventually your neck'll gain the strength to keep up with the work out.
    Knowledge: seven years of wrestling, being able to hold twice my body weight on my neck

    And as for the gym routine to strengthen your neck and shoulders, perfect idea. You'd be surprised at how quickly you gain strength in those areas, especially with a smaller head!

    Let us know how you go

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    Quote Originally Posted by nomnomnom View Post
    Hey all, my names Jess and Im from the Kapiti Coast

    I recently got my license all sorted and got myself a sweet Suzuki Bandit to ride to and from work. I have an absolute blast and LOOOOOVE riding, but Im having some problems....

    I live in Te Horo and work in Welly, so thats about an hours ride each way, on a good day (grrrr traffic). Now when I get home I feel fine, but when I wake up in the morning I can hardly move my head! I get a massive stabbing pain in my neck, its ok to move side to side, but looking up/down is a no-go for about 3-4 days afterward(without being able to ride for those days ). Is it just the way that I ride that causes this? And is there anything at all that I can do to help it? The pain is stopping me from riding and it really sucks!!! I have seen so many others riding day in day out, surely they cant just be bearing the pain?????


    Heeeeeeeelp


    Jess xxx
    Gday Jess,

    Some good point above.

    The pain you are feeling is almost certainly due to mscle strain resulting from a tense posture and wind pressure.

    As mentioned above, get someone experienced to check that you bike is set up for you, contols, suspension etc.

    make a mental not of a few landmarks on you route to work. When you reaccch them use them as a prompt to check your posture and muscle tension and make a concious effort to relax, drop your shoulders and lessen the grip on the bars.

    Finally being so 'slight' in the head and neck department consider investing in a small screen, just large enough to divert some of the wind blast from your head.
    Your neck muscles will get stronger the more you persevere.

    KG

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    a caution re screens, can induce wind buffet. Talk to other bandit owners to see what screens they have used and the result. Try posting in the 250 club. theres bound to be some bandit owners in there.

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    Hi Jess. Sounds like you sure have the love of riding there. Nice work.

    I experienced similar. Not my my 250 but on my current bike. My neck would be crook for days. For me, chaging helmets and getting something much lighter definately helped (seem to have a not-so-tough neck). But its also the riding position on my bike for me as I struggle to hold my head from falling back when travelling at higher speeds, even with the light helmet. Gave me an incredibly sore neck last week with 7 days or south island riding!! Its mostly becasue I am on a cruiser and upright without a screen and a complete wind pocket, but also cause I'm too small for my bike and my riding position is all off.

    It can take the enjoyment out of riding, thats for sure. Perhaps start with a lighter helmet if you can, and also follow the other suggestions of bar positions etc.

    Good luck chick - you gotta be comfortable on your bike.

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    Quote Originally Posted by davebullet View Post
    Good points from Mr. Deuce.

    On every bike we've had, I've moved the gear shifter down a notch. MY foot can't bend upwards enough to shitft up gears - god knows why my foot is so inflexible or what dislocated orangutans design the ergonomics on modern bikes!

    You can buy span adjustable aftermarket levers for the hands and new rearsets (foot pegs and foot controls) to fix these problems with limited factory items.

    don't put up with controls that don't suit your feet and hand positions. These need to be natural or fatigue or error will occur.
    till it digs into the road and rips off. the answer to that is racebike shift pattern...
    I thought elections were decided by angry posts on social media. - F5 Dave

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    drink a can of beer before departing on the bike. You will relax, but after half an hour you'll have to stop to pee. actually thats terrible advice.
    I thought elections were decided by angry posts on social media. - F5 Dave

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    Quote Originally Posted by HenryDorsetCase View Post
    till it digs into the road and rips off. the answer to that is racebike shift pattern...
    Maybe for an experienced rider, but for a learner, one notch down won't bring the gear shift close to the road. Hell - on all my bikes my boot sticks out more on the balls of my feet on the foot pegs than the shifter sticks out (so grounding the outside of the boot will happen first).

    I'm a "same gear through the corner" so rarely need to change up mid corner, so clearance underneath to flick up a gear not required. for learners, I'd recommend correct gear selection before the corner and not change throuhgout. one less thing to focus on and control.
    Quote Originally Posted by FlangMaster
    I had a strange dream myself. You know that game some folk play on the streets where they toss coins at the wall and what not? In my dream they were tossing my semi hardened stool at the wall. I shit you not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by avgas View Post
    Errrr its a suzuki.
    Seeing as you ride a suzuki....clearly you are mistaking the above statement for that towards a honda?. Unless you are that way inclined?
    I have a honda, nissan, subaru and a yamaha as well.

    GN125's seem to be ridden by skinny EMOs with tight faded black jeans,
    its got the perfect riding position for them to slump over head tilted having a cry because their parents won't let their boyfriend stay over on school nights.

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    Take a detour on way home one Tuesday Night and come on the BRONZ Learner ride out of Avalon Duck pond
    Plenty of experienced riders show up to help newbies get more experience, and domeof them even know what theyre doing!!!!!
    Just ride.

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    Sore bits..

    first I had wrist problems but now I don't.. then a sore finger and now I don't, then I got sore legs and now I don't.. then I got sore neck and now I don't, then I got sore ankle now I don't, then I sore back and now its getting better.. but I always had a sore ass from the start 30 years ago and it :probably stay that way.

    But enjoy yourself, as long as all your bits stay attached to the bike, you all good

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    You should be able to loosen the clamp on your bars and turn them slightly and then adjust levers etc... you may get away with just turning your bars??

    Am sure one of the boys down your way would help a young las who loves beer and pizza lol
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