Minecraft. Who plays?

[Danae]

This thread suddenly became not about Minecraft. I'm leaving!

[SMOKEU]

Hows it my loss?

All the games I play I own.
The fact still remains that your an idiot Smokeu

It's your loss for paying for something that you could get for free without stealing it.

You don't own any game you pay for - you simply own the right to use it as specified in the EULA.

Before you start mocking my intellectual ability, learn the proper use of grammar. Saying "Your an idiot" does not make proper sense.

[Spuds1234]

This is the internet not an english essay.

Your stealing intellectual property. How is it not theft?

[SMOKEU]

Your stealing intellectual property. How is it not theft?

I'm not stealing anything. I'm not a thief.
What's so hard to understand about that?

[Spuds1234]

If everyone had your attitude, and everything digital was just distributed for free (because lets face it your not going to pay for anything digital), then how would anyone in these industries ever make a living? Should the people that work at these companies, that produce software, not be legitimate professions that deserve to be paid?

[sil3nt]

Pirating software is copyright infringement.

[jono035]

I've put quite a few hours into Minecraft. Haven't been playing as much recently, but I'm keeping a close eye on the multi-player advancements... SMP looks like it could have quite a lot of promise.

Creepers. Scariest things ever.

[Grasshopperus]

Stealing something involves depriving the victim of something. This is a criminal act.

Making copies of something that's copyrighted is called copyright infringement. This is a civil offence, not criminal.

[SMOKEU]

If everyone had your attitude, and everything digital was just distributed for free (because lets face it your not going to pay for anything digital), then how would anyone in these industries ever make a living? Should the people that work at these companies, that produce software, not be legitimate professions that deserve to be paid?

Stealing something involves depriving the victim of something. This is a criminal act.

Making copies of something that's copyrighted is called copyright infringement. This is a civil offence, not criminal.

Well said.

[bogan]

This thread suddenly became not about Minecraft. I'm leaving!

Same here, in fact I'm off to play minecraft, which I have paid for, mainly cos it was only 18 bucks. You have to wonder, if 90odd percent of games are pirated, if they only charge 30 bucks instead of $120 per game, piracy would surely drop and they may well get more revenue!

fuck the guys who wrote it must be loaded, 717,000 purchases at 10 euro each

[SMOKEU]

I had a look at Minecraft on the net, but I generally shy away from games that aren't able to give my hardware a good work out. I didn't pay for an SLI setup for nothing!

[Blackshear]

Same here, in fact I'm off to play minecraft, which I have paid for, mainly cos it was only 18 bucks. You have to wonder, if 90odd percent of games are pirated, if they only charge 30 bucks instead of $120 per game, piracy would surely drop and they may well get more revenue!

fuck the guys who wrote it must be loaded, 717,000 purchases at 10 euro each

Notch wrote it himself, I believe.
I think he had some guy help with some parts he wasn't familiar with, but he has been in talks with STEAM to sell via their means, and has just IIRC, introduced multiplayer with mob spawns.

Overnight millionaire.

[Pascal]

I'm not stealing anything. I'm not a thief.

You are a thief. You have taken something you have not paid for and are busy enjoying the benefits of it. Spin, obfuscate, lie as much as you like. You are a thief.

And your actions directly affect software developers like myself.

Notch wrote it himself, I believe.

He did, yes. Awesome concept and I believe in his top day of sales (In the earlier days) he topped something like US$250,000. On that day he was selling a copy every 3 seconds. m00d had a graph tracking the sales, but it is currently unavailable.

You gotta love a small, simple concept and how it has blossomed.

[Cayman911]

[Pascal]

Sales of software to 100 customers @ NZ$99.00 per copy = NZ$9900.00.

Sales of software to 20 customers @ NZ$99.00 per copy = NZ$1980.00.
80 pirated copies in use @ NZ$99.00 per copy = NZ$7920.

Software developer has been deprived of NZ$7920 of income, because the software has been pirated and is actively being used by people.

You have "stolen" that income from the developer. And while I understand the concept of people who could not buy it, if you do not have the money to pay for it, do not use it. To use it without obtaining the appropriate license has stolen that income from the developer, because you are enjoying the benefit of their enterprise and work without rewarding them for it.