Minecraft. Who plays?

[SMOKEU]

Almost 10 years now. Lank genoeg om die Kaap goed te mis.

I've been here 13 years, I still miss my home country. I became a NZ citizen earlier this year and I still go back every 2 or 3 years to see the family. Surprisingly enough I suppose I sort of miss the kaffirs in a way.

[imdying]

I'll hook you up with the warez bro... I'm a developer and I could give two hoots about piracy.

If all the game developers went out of business you'll still be able to get games because people will make and distribute them for free. Sure there will not be the same number of glittery over priced monstrosities, but games don't require all the rubbish they have to be fun.

/edit: Heh, ironically my brother wants to become a games developer, so I'm teaching him some bits n pieces... just 5 minutes ago I made a 3D spaceship fly around for the first time. I'm not sure why he would want such a dead boring job involving a lot of intensive mathematics (at a guess, given by what a single 3D object takes to move nicely), but that's his choice.

[SMOKEU]

I'll hook you up with the warez bro... I'm a developer and I could give two hoots about piracy.

If all the game developers went out of business you'll still be able to get games because people will make and distribute them for free. Sure there will not be the same number of glittery over priced monstrosities, but games don't require all the rubbish they have to be fun.

Linux is a good example of that. Look at all the free Linux versions around, most of them are very good, stable OSs. What kind of software do you develop?

[Grasshopperus]

I'm not sure why he would want such a dead boring job involving a lot of intensive mathematics (at a guess, given by what a single 3D object takes to move nicely), but that's his choice.

Get him to use a graphics engine like Ogre3D; you don't need to get into OpenGL/Direct3D matrix arithmetic or any of that stuff to just get going. It's got heaps of tutorials, plugins, community and it's free.

I too am a software developer (FOSS) and I want people to use my stuff, don't care how.

[imdying]

Linux is a good example of that. Look at all the free Linux versions around, most of them are very good, stable OSs. What kind of software do you develop?

Basically... yeah. Some would argue that the world would be a better place without retail software. I don't really care that much, but some of the papers people have written make interesting reading.

All sorts of things; the last thing was a monitoring service for a filling station. I didn't do the 232 comms to the station itself, just the control software.

If all software developers went out of business, it wouldn't bother me, I'd just go and do something else

[imdying]

Get him to use a graphics engine like Ogre3D; you don't need to get into OpenGL/Direct3D matrix arithmetic or any of that stuff to just get going. It's got heaps of tutorials, plugins, community and it's free.

Yeah could do, I'd rather he wrote his own (basic) engine though, which means he'll need to know the ins and outs of the guts of it. Do him good to work his brain in any case, and it doesn't look that difficult

[EJK]

Sales of software to 100 customers @ NZ$99.00 per copy = NZ$9900.00.

Sales of software to 20 customers @ NZ$99.00 per copy = NZ$1980.00.
80 pirated copies in use @ NZ$99.00 per copy = NZ$7920.

Software developer has been deprived of NZ$7920 of income, because the software has been pirated and is actively being used by people.

You have "stolen" that income from the developer. And while I understand the concept of people who could not buy it, if you do not have the money to pay for it, do not use it. To use it without obtaining the appropriate license has stolen that income from the developer, because you are enjoying the benefit of their enterprise and work without rewarding them for it.

Just a note: I did a research report on Software piracy causing impact on business with 2009 statistics for a paper I did mid this year.
According to Business Software Alliance (BSA), Commercial value of software theft exceeded $73 billion NZ Dollars... that's 2009 year alone. This excludes pirated music, movies and books.

[SMOKEU]

Just a note: I did a research report on Software piracy causing impact on business with 2009 statistics for a paper I did mid this year.
According to Business Software Alliance (BSA), Commercial value of software theft exceeded $73 billion NZ Dollars... that's 2009 year alone. This excludes pirated music, movies and books.

Fuck that's epic. I'm proud to play my part lol.

[Grasshopperus]

Just a note: I did a research report on Software piracy causing impact on business with 2009 statistics for a paper I did mid this year.
According to Business Software Alliance (BSA), Commercial value of software theft exceeded $73 billion NZ Dollars... that's 2009 year alone. This excludes pirated music, movies and books.

So copyright infringement of computer software cost NZ 43% of its GDP?

The BSA is a software lobbyist group and as such will be using all manner of misleading statistical tricks in order to make those figures look real impressive.

A big number like that gets the mass' attention with wow factor and gets politicians thinking about being able to slap 15% GST on it.

The BSA's core business is winning government contracts for its supporting members and trying to influence national policy to the advantage of said members (none of whom are NZ owned companies btw)

Feeling militant tonight.

[EJK]

So copyright infringement of computer software cost NZ 43% of its GDP?

The BSA is a software lobbyist group and as such will be using all manner of misleading statistical tricks in order to make those figures look real impressive.

A big number like that gets the mass' attention with wow factor and gets politicians thinking about being able to slap 15% GST on it.

The BSA's core business is winning government contracts for its supporting members and trying to influence national policy to the advantage of said members (none of whom are NZ owned companies btw)

Feeling militant tonight.

No, the stats is global, not just NZ. True, I'm not entirely sure how they got the info but hey, everybody gotta belive in something right?

If curious, NZ loss is $63 Million (USD) with piracy rate of 22% in 2009(one of the lowest, again from BSA).