Juniors & the South Island Nationals

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As in previous years all three Sth island rounds will have Streetstock/Superlite as a support class. Competing for the "McCleary Cup"
Which of you Nth Island junior racers are making the trip! Let me know if you are coming and if any of you need transport or a bed for the night and i will see what we can sort out for ya all down here.
All the junior racers and crew down here are more than willing to help out to make the trip possible for you guys from "up north" so start planning and dont be afraid to ask if you need anything.
Quite a few of last years top riders in this class have moved to different classes this season so expect to see some new names on the winners list. Last year proved that the 250 ninja and 250 hyosung are worthy opponants to the RG,s and KR,s..... so would be good to see the same mix again this year.

[Billy]

As in previous years all three Sth island rounds will have Streetstock/Superlite as a support class. Competing for the "McCleary Cup"
Which of you Nth Island junior racers are making the trip! Let me know if you are coming and if any of you need transport or a bed for the night and i will see what we can sort out for ya all down here.
All the junior racers and crew down here are more than willing to help out to make the trip possible for you guys from "up north" so start planning and dont be afraid to ask if you need anything.
Quite a few of last years top riders in this class have moved to different classes this season so expect to see some new names on the winners list. Last year proved that the 250 ninja and 250 hyosung are worthy opponants to the RG,s and KR,s..... so would be good to see the same mix again this year.

Good on you Merv,It never fails too amaze me the never ending energy you guys put into Junior streetstock down there.If I could get half of that enthusiasm happening up here it would certainly make life easier.

Ive been chasing up a few and have attracted only 2 at this stage,Have room for 5 bikes so heres hoping.

It might be worth mentioning at this stage also,The 250 Prolite class will be running as a National Championship class this season (assuming theres 6 on the grid for round 1 AND THERE WILL BE),I still have 3 for lease for this series,Have made them extra affordable for the South Island rounds and will include transport to all the tracks.Antbody interested can contact me through the normal channels and extra information is on both the MNZ website or NZSBK

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When was this 250 Prolight as a national class decided................. as a comittee member of MCC i can say that we are (or were at last comm meeting) unaware of a decision on this.
Some more info would be appreciated Billy.
Glad to see that you are trying to rally the troops already. When we came up for winter rounds there was some good young talant in the junior class........ would be good to see them around the country not just confined to Manfield etc.
Guess it all boils down to costings .......... however if they are serious the level of comp during the national rounds would make it an invaluable exercise.
A bit of planning and organisation can make it a viable trip.

[Kickaha]

It might be worth mentioning at this stage also,The 250 Prolite class will be running as a National Championship class this season

What kind of numbers do they put on the grid compared to 150SS?

[Billy]

What kind of numbers do they put on the grid compared to 150SS?

Bugger all at the moment,But the plan is to get them out there and promote the class,Im bringing 5 south with me and have riders who will ride them at round 1

[Billy]

When was this 250 Prolight as a national class decided................. as a comittee member of MCC i can say that we are (or were at last comm meeting) unaware of a decision on this.
Some more info would be appreciated Billy.

Not sure,But the rules and a brief write up are on NZSBK and while not wanting to be clever,If you go to the entry form for all 3 south Island national rounds its listed as a class on the entry forms,I had a lengthy conversation with Peter Jones last week and got the impression there was some missinformation happening,Something Id rather keep out of,Best to contact Peter Ramage or Jim Tuckerman for clarification.

Cheers Billy

As a footnote the Pro lite 250 class was listed as a national championship last year but 6 did not front up on the grid

[Kickaha]

If you go to the entry form for all 3 south Island national rounds its listed as a class on the entry forms

I don't see them on the MNZ site

Why introduce prolight when SS150 already has good numbers and will put more on the grid?

[Billy]

I don't see them on the MNZ site


No,Theyre not on the mnz site for some reason,Try NZSBK

Why introduce prolight when SS150 already has good numbers and will put more on the grid?

As I understand it,The Pro lite class was introduced due to the ageing fleet of RGs/KRs etc becoming harder and harder too procure genuine parts for and with no new models being released the class has reached a stage where it could no longer evolve.

I think also MNZ wanted too take the whole streetstock class a bit further and run it as a National championship class to act as a feeder to their Pro twins class,Some thing that would never be an option with 150 streetstock as the whole rule structure
for that class is little more than a dogs breakfast with no homoligation necessary.

On that basis as I understand it,MNZ have decided to run the Prolite 250 class as a National championship but too allow the 150s in the same race with no points.

Please remember to NOT shoot the messenger and if your not happy with this decision contact the following people,Peter Ramage roadrace commission chairperson or Jim tuckerman MNZ president

[Kickaha]

or Jim Tuckerman MNZ president

Going by past experience I would rather bash my head against a concrete wall it would be a lot less painful and probably have a better result

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.....change is inevitable...always a bit of pain involved...hopefully not too much...we do have a lot of S/S down here tho....whats the streetstock riders perspective on the mooted changes....

[Billy]

.....change is inevitable...always a bit of pain involved...hopefully not too much...we do have a lot of S/S down here tho....whats the streetstock riders perspective on the mooted changes....

Absolutely agree although Im not sure change is the right word,Evolve would be more appropriate,I didnt think it was the right move myself at first,But in hindsight if theyre going to start a new class then it should be supported on its merits and I dont see how it will affect SS150 riders if theyre scored seperately,SS150 will never be a NZ championship class and Prolite will,Simple really!!

[Billy]

Going by past experience I would rather bash my head against a concrete wall it would be a lot less painful and probably have a better result

LOL,Your possibly not the first person to say that,Thats why I gave 2 options

[fuknKIWI]

.....change is inevitable...

Change is the only constant

[SWERVE]

I pressume that by "prolight" you are meaning the new model ninja 250/hoysung 250 that are currently being raced by the likes of woodyracer and your riders Billy. If so then we had 2 at last years nationals racing in streetstock ridden by Seth Deveraux and Jarod Pyke (kwakas) both of whom were always in the top 5. Seth finished 3rd overall.
I was under the impression that these were the "superlite" machines and the "prolights" are the older 250s that many race at VMCC such as Dan Plaisted. These obviously are not within a national class....i pressume.

We had heard a rumour that MNZ were too only score points for the new 250s but allow the streetstock bikes to race along side them. As Streetstock has been one of the biggest grids at Sth Is Nats for a few years now that is the reason to continue to run the "McCleary Cup" within the 3 rounds down sth.
All bikes both 150 & 250 will score points for this cup and it will be awarded at the final Sth Is round at ruapuna.
As for the National Prolite (or superlite) class it will eventually take over as the junior/entry level class if enough people get behind it early enough........ otherwise MNZ will see it as a waste of time and "can it" beforeit even gets of the ground.
If they had seen sense and given streetstock national rating 3/4 years ago the combined class would now be heaving with a mix of bikes and a bucket load of talent. Then progression from the RG/KR to the Ninja etc would have been natural over time.
The Sth Is rounds will have big grids....... and we welcome all nth is riders whatever machine they ride.................... however dont expect to see many(if any make the trip north) to act as bridesmaids to a handfull of 250s.
I personally hope the junior/entry level class (whatever they call it) doesnt die a death in regards to having national status........... cant see 50+ youngsters and parants in the Sth Is rushing into the shops to buy a 250 to replace the RG just yet though.

[Kickaha]

If they had seen sense and given streetstock national rating 3/4 years ago the combined class would now be heaving with a mix of bikes and a bucket load of talent.

It'd really make you wonder how a class with so few bikes can be turned into a National Championship class but one that puts numbers on the grid like SS150 couldn't