Stabbed policeman left to die

[Toaster]

Being armed wouldn't help when you turn your back on the suspect

Very true.

FIRST rule of training - NEVER let anyone get behind you.... EVER.

Personally if I was still in the job, I would carry a firearm to ensure I had the best array possible of available tools to do my job, protect myself and the lives and wellbeing of others, including the public.

Yes any weapon can be used against an officer, but that is no reason to leave them less equipped for a dangerous job that few have the guts to do in this day and age.

[terbang]

Cop has no gun, crim gets machete and the cop gets done.

Cops get guns and protocol for their use. Crims also get guns with no protocol whatsoever. Cops still get done.

I reckon safety in numbers with the right equipment would make a difference. Two armed and well trained cops are certainly going to be much more effective in this (this thread) situation.

[Crazy Steve]

Not me, because its not real just like you, just the poor imagination of a deluded loser troller, and not a good one at that.

It's real alright ! I've been drinking bourbon all night and about to go out into town and use it !

Can't decide if I'm going for a shooting spree at the local school or police station ??

Which one would you chose Sir ?

Crazy Steve.

[BoristheBiter]

It's real alright ! I've been drinking bourbon all night and about to go out into town and use it !

Can't decide if I'm going for a shooting spree at the local school or police station ??

Which one would you chose Sir ?

Crazy Steve.

Oh i'm glad i don't have choices like that anymore, i finished GTA when i was 12, so at 14 your a little behind but then thats the way you like

[BoristheBiter]

Cop has no gun, crim gets machete and the cop gets done.

Cops get guns and protocol for their use. Crims also get guns with no protocol whatsoever. Cops still get done.

I reckon safety in numbers with the right equipment would make a difference. Two armed and well trained cops are certainly going to be much more effective in this (this thread) situation.

I refer back to my first post.

"Its about time we went the way of the states, pull everyone out and handcuff them then find out what the story is. Oh at gunpoint as well."

[Edbear]

Very true.

FIRST rule of training - NEVER let anyone get behind you.... EVER.

Personally if I was still in the job, I would carry a firearm to ensure I had the best array possible of available tools to do my job, protect myself and the lives and wellbeing of others, including the public.

Yes any weapon can be used against an officer, but that is no reason to leave them less equipped for a dangerous job that few have the guts to do in this day and age.

I was talking to a local cop yesterday and expressed my sympathies for what had happened. It does affect them. He put a brave face on it and was reassuring but it doesn't take a psychologist to see how they feel about the increasing violence towards Police and in society in general.

As for doing their job, I doubt any of the detractor's here would even want to accompany a patrol at night, let alone do the job itself...

[scissorhands]

I refer back to my first post.

"Its about time we went the way of the states, pull everyone out and handcuff them then find out what the story is. Oh at gunpoint as well."

That will make or society worse. Cant anyone see the connection with US style policy, media and conditioning and US style crime statistics and gangster motive in the NZ young.

Hands up children and those not able to make the connection

[Scuba_Steve]

I refer back to my first post.

"Its about time we went the way of the states, pull everyone out and handcuff them then find out what the story is. Oh at gunpoint as well."

Why don't we incapacitate everyone pulled over? after all any motorist out there could be this crazy steve guy, don't wanna take risks right?

If you like the idea of a police state feel free to move to L.A. I myself prefer NOT to be cavity searched or handcuffed & beaten with sticks "just because!".

[BoristheBiter]

That will make or society worse. Cant anyone see the connection with US style policy, media and conditioning and US style crime statistics and gangster motive in the NZ young.

Hands up children and those not able to make the connection

But it will stop the cops getting bashed. if not then the crims get shot and thats just good riddance to bad rubbish. w

win/win i say.

[scissorhands]

But it will stop the cops getting bashed. if not then the crims get shot and thats just good riddance to bad rubbish. w

win/win i say.

Your child 16 years old walking home pissed from a school party destroys a letterbox. Cop unholsters, kid is drunk and stupid, bang bang

[BoristheBiter]

Why don't we incapacitate everyone pulled over? after all any motorist out there could be this crazy steve guy, don't wanna take risks right?

If you like the idea of a police state feel free to move to L.A. I myself prefer NOT to be cavity searched or handcuffed & beaten with sticks "just because!".

I like the idea of being able to leave my house and car unlocked and it still being there in one piece when i return, i like the idea of going out for a walk at night and not being accosted by some little shit who thinks he's all that.
Those days are long gone and the sooner you except that and deal with it the better it will be.

[BoristheBiter]

Your child 16 years old walking home pissed from a school party destroys a letterbox. Cop unholsters, kid is drunk and stupid, bang bang

More likely to be 16 year old walking home pissed from a school party destroys a letterbox gets stopped by cop, his mates turn up and give the cop the bash.

[Scuba_Steve]

I like the idea of being able to leave my house and car unlocked and it still being there in one piece when i return, i like the idea of going out for a walk at night and not being accosted by some little shit who thinks he's all that.
Those days are long gone and the sooner you except that and deal with it the better it will be.

but you like the idea of randomly being beaten by cops just because they were bored? like I said you like police state move to L.A. the L.A.P.D. will be more than happy to beat you with sticks for no reason at all.

[BoristheBiter]

but you like the idea of randomly being beaten by cops just because they were bored? like I said you like police state move to L.A. the L.A.P.D. will be more than happy to beat you with sticks for no reason at all.

because letting the police use tools for protecting themselves will always end in everyone getting bashed.
I think you need to stop watching so much TV and join us in the real world.

[Scuba_Steve]

because letting the police use tools for protecting themselves will always end in everyone getting bashed.
I think you need to stop watching so much TV and join us in the real world.

your here saying EVERYONE should be handcuffed & held up at gun point, that's not cops protecting themselves that's L.A.P.D. style police brutality.

Maybee you need to watch the doco on the S.W.A.T. they themselves say arming police has little effect as crims will always outgun them
cops get pistols, crims get shotguns
cops get shotguns, crims get ak's & vests
cops get m4's & vests, crims get armour piecing bullets & RPG's

as said from the S.W.A.T. team themselves, get the point! military style CQC training (proper training to not like this gun/car training we currently give them) is the best thing we could give our cops to protect themselves