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    Quote Originally Posted by cbfb View Post
    remember what you've had to drink and use the following calculation:

    (Volume(ml) x Alcohol(% by volume, ABV)) / 1000 = Alcohol (units)

    So if you've had 12 x 330ml bottles of Speight's at 4% ABV, that would be:

    (3960 x 4) / 1000 = 15.8 units

    I cant figure out how much change to give the rag head at the dairy for a pie after a few jars, let alone that scientific calculation you have there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cbfb View Post
    No, 'Standard Drinks' are NOT the same as 'Units'.

    Example: A 330ml, 5% can of beer contains 1.3 Standard Drinks or 1.65 Units.

    It's important to use Units instead of Standard Drinks because as with my earlier example, a twelve pack would be 12 Standard Drinks or 15.8 Units. That 3.8 Units is roughly 4 hour's worth of time you shouldn't be driving.
    In keeping it simple for the readers I refered to units or unit measurements as standard drinks - which is exactly how bottles are labelled.

    A twelve pack at 5% -1.3 standard drinks, is not 12 standard drinks - it's 15.6 standard drinks (still slightly out to your unit measurement)

    I can't see the layman using a calculation we don't use on labelling of alcohol bottles, based on a term we don't use to educate general public in NZ or Aus.

    Maybe we should, who knows - not my call.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Genestho View Post
    In keeping it simple for the readers I refered to units or unit measurements as standard drinks - which is exactly how bottles are labelled.

    A twelve pack at 5% -1.3 standard drinks, is not 12 standard drinks - it's 15.6 standard drinks (still slightly out to your unit measurement)

    I can't see the layman using a calculation we don't use on labelling of alcohol bottles, based on a term we don't use to educate general public in NZ or Aus.

    Maybe we should, who knows - not my call.
    Nope the example I was using originally was at 4% which does come out at 12 Standard Drinks, or 15.8 Units. At 5%, a doz is 19.8 Units. So there is quite a difference. Sorry I can see my examples were a bit confusing there, should have stuck with 4% all along.

    I agree it's a bit confusing to do the maths, but god knows why they don't put Units on the bottles instead of Standard Drinks because they equate to hours, much easier for everyone. In the UK they taught me to calculate it that way.

    Have trouble with pissed maths? I use this BEFORE I start drinking usually. Say if I've got to drive somewhere at 9 the next morning, I know exactly how much I can have so it's comfortably out of my system by then.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cbfb View Post
    Nope the example I was using originally was at 4% which does come out at 12 Standard Drinks, or 15.8 Units. At 5%, a doz is 19.8 Units. So there is quite a difference. Sorry I can see my examples were a bit confusing there, should have stuck with 4% all along.

    I agree it's a bit confusing to do the maths, but god knows why they don't put Units on the bottles instead of Standard Drinks because they equate to hours, much easier for everyone. In the UK they taught me to calculate it that way.

    Have trouble with pissed maths? I use this BEFORE I start drinking usually. Say if I've got to drive somewhere at 9 the next morning, I know exactly how much I can have so it's comfortably out of my system by then.
    Ahh, yea, lol I was confuzzled

    I saw an example of 4% then your last example was 5%. Which is what the standard drink pamphlet also refers to.

    I've read a bit about the difference of units to standard drinks, and It does appear an EU term of measurement.

    Here's a little overview, it's not actually the one I was looking for though! http://www.icap.org/LinkClick.aspx?f...oQ%3D&tabid=75

    Totally agree - You'd think it would be alot safer to have a pre-calculation of units on bottles. Be an interesting to question to ask...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Genestho View Post
    Ahh, yea, lol I was confuzzled

    I saw an example of 4% then your last example was 5%. Which is what the standard drink pamphlet also refers to.

    I've read a bit about the difference of units to standard drinks, and It does appear an EU term of measurement.

    Here's a little overview, it's not actually the one I was looking for though! http://www.icap.org/LinkClick.aspx?f...oQ%3D&tabid=75

    Totally agree - You'd think it would be alot safer to have a pre-calculation of units on bottles. Be an interesting to question to ask...
    Yep it is an EU thing. And it is taught by the justice system there (in the UK at least) so they must have some confidence in it.

    I wonder if the reluctance to teach this in other countries might be because different people may 'get rid' of a unit of alcohol in more or less than an hour, so someone who was technically OK to drive may still be over.

    Still think it's a better alternative to a gizmo breathalyzer though, even the police ones are innaccurate enough to require a second, flasher breathalyzer and a blood test (again speaking about the UK not sure if procedure is the same here).

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    Had 9 Jim beam stubbies at our work Christmas 'do' last night, spread out between 5pm and 10:30pm.

    Tested myself at 10:48pm and blew 208 and 200 - half the driving limit.

    But even so I felt the effects enough that there was no way I would drive.
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    If it takes more than six attempts to insert the keys into the ignition, (after you have dropped them several times), take the back road.
    The road edges are more rough, and "bump steering is easier".





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    Quote Originally Posted by scumdog View Post
    But even so I felt the effects enough that there was no way I would drive.
    Just as well you had the bike then!

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    Quote Originally Posted by scumdog View Post
    Had 9 Jim beam stubbies at our work Christmas 'do' last night, spread out between 5pm and 10:30pm.

    Tested myself at 10:48pm and blew 208 and 200 - half the driving limit.

    But even so I felt the effects enough that there was no way I would drive.
    Not even at the stage "sorry to pissed to walk stage",funny how I would think years ago,hmmm had 2 or 3 pints and be paranoid driving,or another time have way more and think she'll be right,think as I grow older paranoia sets in,and don't drink and drive after more than 2 pints.
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    i consistently drink 8 stienlager stubbies after work on fridays,been checkpointed twice,both times i passed although the second time the guy asked me how much i had drunk,when i said 8 stienys he shook his head and said "im sure these things dont work sometimes"

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    Quote Originally Posted by tri boy View Post
    If it takes more than six attempts to insert the keys into the ignition, (after you have dropped them several times), take the back road.
    The road edges are more rough, and "bump steering is easier".





    Jokes, just jokes, mkayy.
    I'll bite.

    I love a good joke, I've a pretty fierce sense of humour with those that know me.

    I have to face another Xmas with kids asking questions like "Will Santa visit Daddy in Heaven" Will he visit the "Bad man"? You name it - they ask.

    I've been really sick over the lask week, everything two people do in one household...I do on my own - I still have to mow lawns, weed whack, trim trees, fix stuff, all normal everyday stuff.... put Xmas lights up, finish the last bits Xmas food shopping and prep, have fun with kids and entertain, miss out on Xmas parties, and continue to miss out on a heap of things that I'd love to do.

    You have no idea of the lists of consequences and sacrifices I've had to bare.

    My choice - I've pushed myself so damned hard to make a difference, sometimes I think have, amongst grief - to survive a three and a half year investigation, hanging over my head.

    Do you know what happens on Xmas day in my house? Infact any anniversary?

    My last vision of my husband and me old mate is a desperate and dying man - then one of a grey and dead person smashed into a thousand bits.

    They don't last long because you can't live that way - it's unspoken, but our family naturally stumble momentarily every anniversary, as others do in the same situation.

    The thoughts are - how he would've had so much fun with his kids, how we'd be camping and enjoying our future together.

    How these kids miss every milestone and guidance from a good person, I am Mother and Father, left to deal with the shit from other peoples selfish actions.

    I am sorry for being so open, but Drink Driving is not a joke. Merry Xmas.
    Last edited by Genestho; 21st December 2010 at 10:38. Reason: Mmmm rephrased..
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