At times Max I,m just blown away by your bluntnessOriginally Posted by Fatt Max
L-Plate Rider
At times Max I,m just blown away by your bluntness
L-Plate Rider
I watched an informative cd a while back narated by Michael Douglass, about the vaccines issued to american Military, and how many of them are dying early, I cant remember the name of it, if anyone can post it ?? people should go and have a look, its pretty shocking, it clearly shows the dark side at work. There is a need for vacination, but it must be ethical and an informed choice surrley.
Just faidin away!
The seat belt analogy is a no brainer, the "whole of the information" is at our finger tips and the argument becomes about the freedom of choice, rather than whether seat belts work!
When it comes to medical mischief it is a different story, it is too easy for us to be kept in the dark and fed on the selective BS of vested interests!
For those of you who are firmly behind the persuasion of the medical status quo, (generally people of an academic background) I suggest that a serious look at the scenes behind the obvious such as IHC, CCS and the like will open your eyes to just how many victims and casualties of medical misadventure there are!
It is not simply the individual victims that are casualties, the scars reach well out into their families and beyond as well.
Apparently the "statistics" actually support the fact that more people are killed or maimed annually by medical accidents/incidents in NZ than are killed or maimed on our roads!
I won't mind being corrected on this if it can be proved incorrect, in fact I would be relieved!
But is it correct?
If so, why are there not TV advertising programs warning us to avoid medical facilities in order to bring the toll down?
Forum whore
You need to be careful there because you have to prove that medical intervention caused the condition. More often the unfortunate results are regarded as the acceptable collateral damage of a variety of programmes and practices.
Apparently the "statistics" actually support the fact that more people are killed or maimed annually by medical accidents/incidents in NZ than are killed or maimed on our roads!
I won't mind being corrected on this if it can be proved incorrect, in fact I would be relieved!
But is it correct?
If a man is alone in the woods and there isn't a woke Hollywood around to call him racist, is he still white?
Forum whore
Rather than prove your statement to be incorrect (i'm too lazy), you could look for proof that your statement is correct
Apparently the "statistics" actually support the fact that more people are killed or maimed annually by medical accidents/incidents in NZ than are killed or maimed on our roads!
I won't mind being corrected on this if it can be proved incorrect, in fact I would be relieved!
Rest In Peace
You must always ASK the doctor imho.
When I was to undergo surgery,the doc said this is what I need to do,my head was taking in shitloads of info,mostly the first sentence"you have bowel cancer".I had 17 days from that diagnosis to surgery,a couple of pre op meets and questions to ask.Mostly I left it in their hands to do what was best.
After being told no chemo I was advised I should have the regime,wasn't compulsery,but reccomended.That was when heaps of questions abound,I went in open eyed,unlike other friends and ill-advised people thinking that chemo means you will be sick 1 week in 4,my oncology doc said it is upto individual and type of chemo.
Was there a natural remedy,I don't know,didn't care.I know my dads partner bought some natural juice for her friend who was terminally ill,and her(dads partner)was ill informed of her friends illness being so bad,and as I tried explaining a lot of these so called natural remedies work on the placebo effect,and for me the brain is the most powerfull tool in universe,if you believe it doesn't hurt when you push the pain pump it works,even when you ask the cut off or time delay lol.
Hello officer put it on my tab
Don't steal the government hates competition.
Trying to be a good dog
You know i just dont get it?
They want a cheap labour force to build their empires, yet they treat the workers like shit. Bad food, bad health care, too much stress, push you pull you see sawing Hegelian themes.....
Why dont they push the healthier options and save tax money used on this state created sickness.
oh wait they profit on the workers suffering!!
Those who are not part of the solution are part of the problem!
Churches are monuments to self importance
Bogeyman
Wouldn’t surprise me. I’d take it to be synonymous with a society which invests heavily in health. Now let’s see that number expressed over the total number of visits to a health institution eh?Apparently the "statistics" actually support the fact that more people are killed or maimed annually by medical accidents/incidents in NZ than are killed or maimed on our roads!
I won't mind being corrected on this if it can be proved incorrect, in fact I would be relieved!
The success rates for various health interventions is fairly readily available, if you don’t trust your doctor try teh interweb. If you don’t like the chances you always the option of declining the procedure.
Go soothingly on the grease mud, as there lurks the skid demon
Forum whore
You actually don't have that option without the support and cooperation of your next of kin. You will be "Sectioned" and forced to undergo treatments you'd personally choose to turn down if your next of kin don't support the argument and even then a specialist can take temporary power of attorney and ignore yours and your family's wishes if there's a chance the Doctor can convince a judge that you'd survive whatever procedure it is - irrespective of subsequent quality of life.
If a man is alone in the woods and there isn't a woke Hollywood around to call him racist, is he still white?
Bogeyman
I suspect the law would support that in such cases where there were suspicions of fitness to make such decisions. But then, when it comes to defining how to "manage" people who hold all the cards any law's an idiot.
Either way I can assure anyone considering such steps that in at least one instance it's likely that the only place the straightjacket fits is up their arse. Sans lubricant.
Go soothingly on the grease mud, as there lurks the skid demon
Just faidin away!
I am really upset at losing my medical doctor to Australia in the New year!
We have had a great doctor/patient relationship!
I take responsibility for my own health plan and she advises me on the value of the pro's and con's of the path I want to follow!
As we move deeper into our latter years we have felt very confident, secure and privileged to have had her professional services available to us! (me and Mrs O/r)
She is not just going because of the money, it's mainly due to the frustrations she experiences with the medical field she works in, much of it being in line with the topics of this thread.
What a bloody waste of quality talent so needed to be retained in NZ!
one placenta
...oldrider...the less clever people remaining standing is a part of their ploy....narrow-minded greed has a way of bypassing morals..I can only imagine living a life contrary to your ethics ,must be hell...
Rest In Peace
Isn't that the truth,when in hospital in Wellington,I had the great fortune to be in the care of a brilliant nurse (male) from Ireland(with Croation mother lol),he was heading to Sydney a day after I was discharged,reason because he couldn't get enough hours and trying to buy a house required 40 plus hours for the bank,and he was doing 20 ish.Also he was in charge of training nurses,he had an excellent demeanor of saying this is what and how you do it,now you try,the hard thing was trying to explain in english to the asian nurses who were prevelant.
He was annoyed that a dressing wasn't removed from my hand and drip placed in other hand,so much that he said at 8.00am he'd do it when he left that day,sure enough at 3.15ish he arrived,spent another 30 mins doing the business,explaining his reasons to leave,and his lack of confidence in the system,case and point was my lines needing to be changed and hadn't etc,minor things in the context but to him the way he was trained was what he believed in,and his focus was on patient.
Hello officer put it on my tab
Don't steal the government hates competition.
Highway Biker
I'm sorry, I thought we were in New Zealand, where there isn't huge amounts of money in Doctors prescribing unnecessary drugs. Think I just stepped into a vortex where US blogs and arguments are firing back and forwards because their health care systems encourage it heavily.
Bogeyman
For all intents and purposes the proliferation of unnescessary drugs is driven by tweaking the market, "selling" the product.
Noticed the advent of pharmacutical advertising in NZ over the last few years? Y'know, since they changed the law to relax the restrictions? Oh sure, it's not aimed at the professionals, but "ask your doctor about..." is going to have some effect eh? The adds wouldn't be around long if they didn't produce the required results.
Go soothingly on the grease mud, as there lurks the skid demon
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