5km/h speed tolerance this Christmas

[rebel]

Yea, Cuntstable Plonker couldn't even stay on his side of the centreline

Not to mention driving at twice the posted speed limit on populated semi rural road. Speed kills they say, only sometimes it seems.

[steve_t]

Right, so the road toll was 13, the same as last year.

"AA spokesman Simon Lambourne said there appeared to be less traffic on the roads..."

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/ar...ectid=10697902

I wonder how many more times we'll be told the tolerance will be reduced to 5km/h since it has again proven to work so well

Interesting that the media doesn't seem to report that "in spite of the speed tolerance reduction, the road toll was unchanged."

[bogan]

While I'm sure we all agree the 13 deaths were tragic and most likely avoidable, along with a lot of the injury crashes too, I wonder how many more will have to die before they realise that speed is not the determining factor. Alcohol is suspected in 6 crashes? how hard is it to find out for sure? And excessive speed contributed to 7, wonder if it was excessive for the conditions, or excessive for the limits. Wonder how long till we see half tolerance alcohol checkpoints. NZ just needs better drivers, not 100.00kmhr drivers.

[terbang]

So the 5K thing was a waste of time and made no difference. Most had already figured that.
When are our enforcers going to face up to the reality of our road toll and spend the time, money and effort on fixing the problem properly?
Hint Hint, it lies somewhere in the area of driver education and licencing standards.

[vifferman]

The problem is too that (a) you can't make a simplistic inference like "we imposed a 5km/h tolerance and the toll was down" (like they did at Easter) as it's not a simple 'cause and effect' relationship. Plus (also) normal statistical variance means that if the road toll is around 360/year, then in any given period, you can probably expect anywhere between two or three per day and zero per day, regardless of what the police do or don't do.
At Easter, the police crowed about the reduced road toll due to the reduced speeding tolerance, whereas in all probability it was due more to the shitty weather.
Regardless of all this, NZTA and/or the police are using silly metrics which are measured against neither vehicle kilometres travelled nor number of vehicles on the road, so are therefore rather arbitrary and meaningless when plotted as a trend.

[scumdog]

Alcohol is suspected in 6 crashes? how hard is it to find out for sure?

Not hard.

But getting blood-alcohol results is not exactly an instant procedure.

[p.dath]

Not hard.

But getting blood-alcohol results is not exactly an instant procedure.

Are you even allowed to take a blood sample from a dead person without a court order? I understand there are laws to prevent interference with dead bodies ...

[scumdog]

Are you even allowed to take a blood sample from a dead person without a court order? I understand there are laws to prevent interference with dead bodies ...

It's all part of an P.M. - the results will show whatever levels of whatever substances were in the blood at the time of death.

'Interference'? mmmfff

[SMOKEU]

I understand there are laws to prevent interference with dead bodies ...

Under Section 150 of the New Zealand Crimes Act 1961, it is an offence for there to be "misconduct in respect to human remains." This statute may be applicable to necrophilia, although it should be noted that there is no case law as yet that would test this observation.

[imdying]

Well whadya know, this 5km tolerance is working out good!

[ducatilover]

Well whadya know, this 5km tolerance is working out good!

[Swoop]

So the 5K thing was a waste of time.
Hint Hint, it lies somewhere in the area of driver education and licencing standards.

Yes.
But our retarded idiots like to keep banging the "speed kills" drum because it meets their quota targets*.




* Oops! There is no "quota".

[scumdog]

Yes.
But our retarded idiots like to keep banging the "speed kills" drum because it meets their quota targets*.




* Oops! There is no "quota".

Damned straight

There's no limit as to how many tickets I can give out - it's not like paua or something, there's no season and and no quota.

[steve_t]

Damned straight

There's no limit as to how many tickets I can give out - it's not like paua or something, there's no season and and no quota.

LOL. Do you have competitions as to who can issue the most number in a day? Or the highest value in a day? Or who can say "meow" at least 10 times per contact?

[scumdog]

LOL. Do you have competitions as to who can issue the most number in a day? Or the highest value in a day? Or who can say "meow" at least 10 times per contact?

Welllll...there's this legend about people who use the word 'just' when pulled over.