What's really happening to our world? Alternative opinions abound!

**oldrider** · 24th December 2010, 08:45

Originally Posted by schrodingers cat

Agree Rainman. My 10 cents worth to the thread starter

Never claimed to be any of the above except the last one, all I asked is "what is really happening to our world"?

Why don't you read the title properly before you rant off about the poster!

My point is that there are so many claims of what's going on in our world and some of them are a bit scary if you take any notice of them!

I still find it interesting, "having access to the internet" is OK by me!

Feel better now?

**Bren** · 24th December 2010, 08:54

In his letter Dr. Casey continued saying, “The Earth has been in a long term cooling trend technically for eleven years. The significant drop in global temperatures that also occurred between January 2007 and much of 2008 should have been enough for most observers to finally accept that global warming is over, except that this information was intentionally not passed on to the American people. Also and unfortunately, the Presidential campaign where both major parties continued to beat the drum of global warming and man made climate change only helped to cement in the flawed concept that mankind was more powerful and had more influence on the Earth’s climate than the Sun itself.

Good....no more Global Warming Bullshit.....

Anyway....it wont matter after 2012

**sinfull** · 24th December 2010, 09:54

There is only one certainty in my life,
I am going to die !

I just hope i gets to see mother come and wash it all away !

**schrodingers cat** · 24th December 2010, 10:56

Originally Posted by oldrider

Feel better now?

Do you?

For every claim there is a counterclaim.
Its all noise on noise

Have a nice day

**george formby** · 24th December 2010, 11:08

Originally Posted by scissorhands

At Piha last week I saw and grabbed some 'angel hair' as it floated past on the breeze. I was gob smacked all day and no idea what it was, till I got home and googled 'cobweb substance floating air'.

Mainstream science says its spider webs but it was floating toward me from the sea! May have been blown out to sea on the evening offshore wind, then come back with the afternoon sea breeze. Very wide threads though, would have to have been a mother of a spider. I'm 95% certain it was not a NZ spider threads due to its width.

What the hell makes 'angel hair'

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angel_hair_%28folklore%29

Quite a few types of spiders have colonised Pacific islands by casting "nets" into the wind & literally floating on the breeze to another island.
Been a BBC doco on telly lately about the South Pacific.........

And as far as climate change etc is concerned I'm beginning to think it's just situation normal really. The last 50'000 years have been unusually geologically stable & a number of scientists reason that this has allowed humanity to take such huge strides. The planet is just waking up, nothing we can do about it.

**Pixie** · 26th December 2010, 08:25

All the freezing weather in the Northern hemisphere is due to Global Warming......er.......

**rainman** · 26th December 2010, 09:31

Originally Posted by Pixie

All the freezing weather in the Northern hemisphere is due to Global Warming......er.......

Science works in mysterious ways, grasshopper.

**Jantar** · 26th December 2010, 13:48

Originally Posted by Pixie

All the freezing weather in the Northern hemisphere is due to Global Warming......er.......

You are correct. Just as globull warming was responsible for the polar conditions in South America last winter, with near freezing temperatures near the equator.

**Jantar** · 26th December 2010, 14:40

I should add that earlier this month I attended a Hydrology conference where one of the main foci was looking at the effects of Climate Change on hydrology.

I was fortunate to spend some time in a one-on-one discussion with one of the lead authors of the IPPC 4th assesment report. It was interseting that when we looked at where we agreed and disagreed, we were almost 100% in agreement on the causes of temperature changes, less so on the follow on climatic effects, but still over 80% in agreement. Where we disagreed was on the value of coefficients, the value of sensitivity and the degree and sign of feedbacks. He confirmed that the final IPCC reports do not reflect the science, but do reflect the politics.

In contrast, most warmists on this site do not look at the science (although they claim to), but do follow the political line.

However that may all be moot now as I showed recently in the thread on Globull Warming.

**Motu** · 26th December 2010, 17:13

The IPPC reports are a load of utter crap,but the IPCC reports really are correct in their conclusions.Personally I'm waiting for the IPCP reports,then we will know for sure.

**puddytat** · 26th December 2010, 20:00

Global Warming is the wrong term to choose methinks, Climate Channge is a way betterer term as it accounts for & includes wild extremes in temperature, UP & Down...
Global warming is also a media friendly term, much nicer & easier for the "great unwashed" to imagine a nice warm future instead of a freezing cold one & also less likely to incite mass hysteria maybe?
My hypothesis is that what happens in the Northern hemisphere will follow in the Southern.....Skiing in May June anyone? We had a 2mth early summer & I prophesise a Wet summer leading to poor crop yields along the lines of Europe's last summer

Time will tell.

**scissorhands** · 27th December 2010, 07:12

Originally Posted by george formby

Quite a few types of spiders have colonised Pacific islands by casting "nets" into the wind & literally floating on the breeze to another island.
Been a BBC doco on telly lately about the South Pacific.........

No spiders have been seen near or on 'angel hair'
In a short time, angel hair disappears to nothing. Spider webs do not.

Aint it funny how people believe the shit they read, because it comes from a reliable source, and the other explanations are beyond our present acceptable reality, and in the too hard basket to comprehend or assimilate? meh

**Edbear** · 27th December 2010, 07:37

Originally Posted by sinfull

There is only one certainty in my life,
I am going to die...!

Are you certain about that...?

Originally Posted by Ronin

Gotta love this at the end though.

Eh, you're not suggesting he wants to sell something...?

Originally Posted by oldrider

Settle petal, I simply read, I do not plead, I just look around I didn't ask you to believe anything, that's what your own mind is for FFS!

Read the title again, "alternative opinions abound" so many men, so many opinions!

Bit like KB really...

Originally Posted by CAMSec

...when we talk of our world, is it the one where, through some aberration of genetics , a bunch of upright walking sentients think that all around them is really part of THEIR world or, the one that is just a big rock hurtling through space and all living things hanging off it are just along for the ride...

Well, it's really a bit of a mission to hop off and pick another ride...

**oldrider** · 27th December 2010, 08:11

When you consider the size of "existence", (for the want of a better explanation) how delicately poised it is and what little control we have over any of it, it's understandable why the "Chicken Little fraternity" go into panic mode every now and then!