Safer roads and cars

[EJK]

Yes, I know what you're thinking.

Homeo simply means like or similar. Homo is more specific and comes from the Greek word "Homology" meaning same.

Therefore: Homeostatus menaing "simliar state" and Homosexual meaning "same sex".

We have an educated man.

[Maha]

Dumb practices occur from all road users, that part is not exclusive to car drivers alone.
'Safer roads' needs to include all those that use the road, not just a select group as such?

New technology verse's old?.... would that make you a better driver/rider?
Wonder how much better grandad would go in a new Aston martin after driver his reliable Austin 1100 for the last 30 years?..
Cant compare apples with cherry's.

[Ocean1]

I have reservations about the car flleet making us all better drivers tho' Would I be a better driver for being in a 2010 model car compared to my 2001 car?? I doubt my driving would be any different.

They didn’t say a new car would make anyone a better driver, even the AA aren’t that…. Scratch that, mebe they are.

Anyway, they said, (and I quote):

we need better roads and more modern cars to drive, then the road toll will drop.

And they’re perfectly correct.

I reckon new technology (ABS, Airbags, etc) has made more of a difference to the road toll than the "Speed Kills" bollocks that TPTB spout.

It has. A far, far greater difference.

Imo they can start by ripping up dangerous roadside furniture.

Not installing new dangerous roadside furniture would be a good start.

Personally, the Arsehole Association needs to pull its head out from its arse and see daylight.

Driver/rider EDUCATION will be of more use. "Nice" roads may help a little bit, but the main problem is (once again) overlooked.

Nope. “Education” is not what you might think. And I’m pickin’ you think it’s a sunny day at the local track under the expert guidance of those appropriately skilled in the fine arts of roadcraft. It’s not that. Education is what they euphemistically call forced indoctrination to the “accepted best practices” as espoused by ‘er Majesties servants, which are universally, (other than one or two village idiots) neither accepted or best practice.

And “nice”, for me means less liberally festooned with fucking sharp and hard signs saying shit like “turn that way”. Not to mention managing to wall off both sides of a corner with WRBs and yet allowing access to that corner by on-coming traffic. I know, I know, it’s a lot to ask….

Cant compare apples with cherry's.

I’ve got no idea what a cherry’s is, but I reckon apples are likely to be more suitable for cider.

[davereid]

The government are convinced that enforcement is the key.

http://www.nzta.govt.nz/resources/re...7/docs/397.pdf

They talk about all sorts of technologies for tolling etc.

But the key parts relate to expansion of the existing electronic offence system to a fully automated, you will get caught and fined without human intervention type management system.

- Track you
- Track your car
- Track your passengers
- Toll you based on road, time, date and congestion
- Electronically fine you for speed offences
- Electronically fine you for wof offences
- Electronically fine you for registration offences
- Electronically fine you for licence breaches

Welcome to the New Zealand that our Government plans.
Still its for safety - and what have you got to hide ?

[Swoop]

“Education” is not what you might think. And I’m pickin’ you think it’s a sunny day at the local track under the expert guidance of those appropriately skilled in the fine arts of roadcraft.

Unfortunately you are off the mark there. I refer to the primary education of road users, before they even sit the licence exam.
"Learning" good skills from the very beginning. Learning in environments that cover those likely to be encountered (wet roads, dirt roads, skid-pan, etc, etc).
Not a 5 min "scratch and win" approach that we have currently.

Trackdays are completely different.

[Ocean1]

I refer to the primary education of road users, before they even sit the licence exam.

That's what I meant. Is not the track a good place for a novice to fuck up?

[Swoop]

That's what I meant. Is not the track a good place for a novice to fuck up?

Yes, a fine place to make mistakes.
So long as they are getting decent training!