Record $14 trillion-plus debt weighs on Congress

[Oscar]

Arguing ? How about, just for a change Oscar, you actually try putting YOUR point across (because you never do), with the facts that you obviously have that I don't or have missed, instead of keeping all of those details to yourself. Perhaps I would then have a more balanced view of the situation and might actually learn something . I would be utterly stunned if it was in your capacity to do it, as it's something i'm yet to see. In the meantime, I will hyperbole (WTF does that word mean anyway) my fat little ass off.

You stared the thread, Ace.
Did you not expect any argument?
Is it a private Space Cadets Only thread?
Why don't you make your point.
Drawing some mysterious connection between three apparently unconnected things and then making further unsubstantiated statements does not an argument prove.

For example: ".. the US seems to be closer to a totalitarian regime (i looked it up) than a democracy." sez who? Where did you look it up? In this months Bong Buyers Guide?

Your thread title refers to the US debt problem and draws a comparison to Tunisia.
But Tunisia doesn't have a debt problem - it has actually paid off foreign debt in the last year and is expecting good economic growth. It has a problem with unemployment in a particular demographic, and a repressive regime. And to say these things are related because they both invovle people and money is patently stupid - every country in the world has both of these - so why should the US look to Tunisia?

[mashman]

You stared the thread, Ace.
Did you not expect any argument?
Is it a private Space Cadets Only thread?
Why don't you make your point.
Drawing some mysterious connection between three apparently unconnected things and then making further unsubstantiated statements does not an argument prove.

For example: ".. the US seems to be closer to a totalitarian regime (i looked it up) than a democracy." sez who? Where did you look it up? In this months Bong Buyers Guide?

Your thread title refers to the US debt problem and draws a comparison to Tunisia.
But Tunisia doesn't have a debt problem - it has actually paid off foreign debt in the last year and is expecting good economic growth. It has a problem with unemployment in a particular demographic, and a repressive regime. And to say these things are related because they both invovle people and money is patently stupid - every country in the world has both of these - so why should the US look to Tunisia?

@ Ace.
I'm not fussed about being challenged if that's what you mean. We all have our own opinions and join our own dots and ya can;t please all of the people all of the time .
Bit insulting to others in the thread.

My point, hopefully a little less vague:
I believe that there is the potential for the US to rise up against their government because of the way their govt treats their people and to a certain extent, the rest of the world. Tunisia did (maybe not for exactly the same reasons, but there will be cross overs). It'll be messy if the US does react similarly to Tunisia, coz there's lots more of 'em. From the article "We should stop trying to fit the events in Tunisia into a Western context". Oh irony, especially when further on I read "it's about the people of Tunisia being fed up with decades of marginalization at the hands of a Western-backed kleptocracy", so that's not a Western context then, hmmm... anyhoo, Western Kleptocracy - Could be the US, coulda been the UK, coulda been any western civilisation, but the one I do "wonder/worry" about these days is the US. Tenuous for some, but hey... i'm stupid, why would you expect more

As for Tunisia not having a debt problem, thanks for the info. I sit corrected.

Your Bong Buyers guide example... I don't see the US as having political parties anymore (but I agree, i don't think they're totalitarian either).

I have nothing to prove, I voice my concern, I am happy to be wrong.

[Winston001]

You stared the thread, Ace.
Did you not expect any argument?
Is it a private Space Cadets Only thread?
Why don't you make your point?

LOL give Mashman credit. He is a thinker and certain things about the world bother him. Specifically the economic structure and injustices. Many other people don't like it either but they don't make to effort to learn or construct arguments. They find it much easier to grasp at conspiracies and express themselves scatalogically.

I like Mashman and respect his efforts. :

[mashman]

why do I feel like I've just received a pat on the head and sent to the shop for lollies ... cheers for the kind words Wintson... but this is KB ... I have no problem with Oscars "need" for clarification and have been called far worse than stupid ... and as stoopid people is as they does, as am i think skinned ... and I like you too .

[mashman]

will more govts "fall"? Dunno, but with Egypt having now joined in the discontent towards their government as Tunisia did, and students in the UK carrying banners that say "Ben Ali, Mubarak... Cameron, you are next." as well as standing outside high street shops "Protesters also attacked high street shops, demanding outside Top Man, Vodafone and Next "pay your taxes"." encouraging them to stop evading taxes, I do wonder who's next...

If any of the above govts gave a shit about the people who pay their salaries, then they'd make valid efforts to enforce change, not just "affect" it by tweaking a few laws here and there and misinforming the public by using managed statistics... the politicians sing song reminds me of the Miss World sing song... Miss World always wanting World Peace (never happens), and the politician always wanting to Affect Change (never happens)...

So where is this change they talk about? It's all financial ? If so, then why , oh because the last govt were shit ... and you're happy with that excuse? Must be a Pavlovs dog thing... yet there were no concerns raised by MP's during the golden age and it took a National govt to offer tax cuts to get into power, Pavlov again

I can understand why people protest. It usually reflects a FACT that there's something terribly wrong with how "things" are being run... slashing of services to pay for tax cuts? Borrowing money to pay tax cuts? has it made a difference to the economy? I'm going for a resounding NO!... after all they're still slashing services and service costs, they're borrowing every increasing sums of money per week to "pay the bills", they're still wanting to sell off public assets... WTF!!! yet there's noone to replace the fuckwits with their agendas... yeah I can see why people protest!