Who is sick of all the Waitangi bullshit?

**Buyasta** · 3rd February 2011, 17:31

Originally Posted by SMOKEU

There is a huge difference between white supremacy/white power and white pride.

Indeed, there may well be such a thing as white pride that has nothing to do with racism, however given the sheer amount of overt racism contained in many of your posts, combined with the burning cross motif of image you posted, it seems fairly clear that both you and this meeting are about white supremacy, not white pride.

**jaffamont** · 3rd February 2011, 17:32

Originally Posted by SMOKEU

There is a huge difference between white supremacy/white power and white pride.

Given the picture you have on your profile I'm guessing you have the two mixed up as the same thing.. Really what does a swastika have to do with white pride? White supremacy yes, but not pride.

**SMOKEU** · 3rd February 2011, 17:37

Originally Posted by Buyasta

Indeed, there may well be such a thing as white pride that has nothing to do with racism, however given the sheer amount of overt racism contained in many of your posts, combined with the burning cross motif of image you posted, it seems fairly clear that both you and this meeting are about white supremacy, not white pride.

I am not racist, because racism is a crime, and crime is for black people!

Seriously though, I have Asian and black African friends, so I can't be that racist.

Originally Posted by jaffamont

Given the picture you have on your profile I'm guessing you have the two mixed up as the same thing.. Really what does a swastika have to do with white pride? White supremacy yes, but not pride.

The presence of the swastika on my profile is not indicative of my views regarding any particular ethnic group. Any affiliation the swastika may have regarding those ideologies is purely coincidental.

**Kickaha** · 3rd February 2011, 17:55

Originally Posted by SMOKEU

The presence of the swastika on my profile is not indicative of my views regarding any particular ethnic group. Any affiliation the swastika may have regarding those ideologies is purely coincidental.

Tui anyone?

So explain the 1488 then?

**SMOKEU** · 3rd February 2011, 18:22

Originally Posted by Kickaha

Tui anyone?

So explain the 1488 then?

I was unaware of the significance of the 14 words which you are referring to. Have a look at this link for more information http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Farm_to_Market_Road_1488

**Kickaha** · 3rd February 2011, 18:25

Originally Posted by SMOKEU

I was unaware of the significance of the 14 words which you are referring to. Have a look at this link for more information http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Farm_to_Market_Road_1488

good try but you'd have to be a right dumb cunt if you thought anyone would believe that

**BoristheBiter** · 3rd February 2011, 18:35

Originally Posted by Banditbandit

Declaration of Independence signed at Waitangi in 1835

http://www.nzhistory.net.nz/politics...f-independence

Signed by a group calling themselves The United Tribes of New Zealand ... it is THIS Maori document which establishes the british monarchy as our head of state ...

Five years later the Treaty of Waitangi was signed by the British Crown representastives and the United Tribes of New Zealand - a direct reference to the Declaration of Independence.

At least have a working knowledge of our history before you open your mouth ...

So who are they independent from? How could they be independent if they took the British monarchy as the head of state?

Seem very dependent on welfare, booze and drugs, and handouts from the government.

And when have the tribes since then agreed to anything, even their party can't get their shit together.

**Teflon** · 3rd February 2011, 18:40

**Katman** · 4th February 2011, 07:59

Originally Posted by SMOKEU

I was unaware of the significance of the 14 words which you are referring to. Have a look at this link for more information http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Farm_to_Market_Road_1488

Then you sure are one dumb fuck of a Nazi, aren't you?

I suppose you didn't realise your signature quote was one of Hitler's either.

**SMOKEU** · 4th February 2011, 08:21

Originally Posted by Katman

Then you're one dumb fuck of a Nazi, aren't you?

I suppose you also didn't realise your signature quote was one of Hitler's.

I am certainly not a Nazi™. My signature is for informative purposes only and bears no relevance to my opinion of persons who are part of a racial minority, in this country or otherwise.

**Banditbandit** · 4th February 2011, 08:31

Originally Posted by BoristheBiter

So who are they independent from? How could they be independent if they took the British monarchy as the head of state?

And when have the tribes since then agreed to anything, even their party can't get their shit together.

The intent was not to declare independence from anyone .. the point was to establish a new country - and under international law the declaration achieved that as it was recognised by the USA, by Britain and by France ...

Shit - when have Pakeha agreed on everything - don't even have one party ... to much disagreement so lets create a lot of parties ..

**Banditbandit** · 4th February 2011, 08:33

Originally Posted by SMOKEU

I am certainly not a Nazi™. My signature is for informative purposes only and bears no relevance to my opinion of persons who are part of a racial minority, in this country or otherwise.

You're one dumb fuck Nazi if that's the best you can do .. and expect us to believe it ..

**Banditbandit** · 4th February 2011, 08:42

Can I make a suggestion ....

Try to watch as much of Maori TV's Waitangi Day coverage as you can. You will see a different approach then I think most of you will expect - and you will see what we, as Maori, want to say about our country and it's history ....

You will see a different idea of what our multi-cultural country is and can be ... watch particularly from 4.30 onwards ...

A hint .... Maori TV are promoting it as "One Nation, Many Cultures."

Most of what you all know about any of this has come through the Pakeha media - and that presents divisions and conflict ... Maori TV will show you what the majority of us think about the Treaty - and it will be different to what you expect.

I will post something early next week - in the Not the Scottish Thread (where I have been getting close to what I want o say there) - wathcing Maori TV coverage on Waitangi Day will greatly help because ti will show you things that I haven't got the space to do here ...

**BoristheBiter** · 4th February 2011, 08:44

Originally Posted by Banditbandit

The intent was not to declare independence from anyone .. the point was to establish a new country - and under international law the declaration achieved that as it was recognised by the USA, by Britain and by France ...

Shit - when have Pakeha agreed on everything - don't even have one party ... to much disagreement so lets create a lot of parties ..

I notice you haven't disagreed with the rest of my post though.