Free the weed, dope, cannabis, hooch, Fri 4 Feb, outside Auckland District Courts

[SMOKEU]

Interesting stuff.
I'll start growing tobacco, I enjoy it and it's too expensive. I'm assuming a few out there think the same with weed?
I'm keen to buy or brew alcohol too (except I'd get fat as fuck)

This coming August, buy some tobacco seeds off Trademe and start growing them in pots. Come spring, and the end of the frosts, they should be big enough to plant outdoors. You'll have a good crop by the end of March next year.

Buy yourself a still and start making alcohol. It won't make you fat. I've been getting drunk of homebrew for a few years and I'm still skinny as fuck.

[ducatilover]

This coming August, buy some tobacco seeds off Trademe and start growing them in pots. Come spring, and the end of the frosts, they should be big enough to plant outdoors. You'll have a good crop by the end of March next year.

Buy yourself a still and start making alcohol. It won't make you fat. I've been getting drunk of homebrew for a few years and I'm still skinny as fuck.

I can get baccy seeds for free
Hmmmm might have to make me a brew

[DMNTD:Me]

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I'll start growing tobacco, I enjoy it and it's too expensive.

Intrigued to know exactly what you enjoy about it...
It stinks, you get no 'hit' from it....where is the pleasure from smoking ciggies apart from stopping its "side effects"?

[ducatilover]

Intrigued to know exactly what you enjoy about it...
It stinks, you get no 'hit' from it....where is the pleasure from smoking ciggies apart from stopping its "side effects"?

Feels fucking brilliant in the morning and after a meal, even better after or during a root.
It's my problem if I enjoy it (I start and stop often) living without it isn't a huge issue for me (currently three days without because I can't be fucked buying any)

Strokes for folks

[DMNTD:Me]

Feels fucking brilliant in the morning and after a meal, even better after or during a root.
It's my problem if I enjoy it (I start and stop often) living without it isn't a huge issue for me (currently three days without because I can't be fucked buying any)

Strokes for folks

Sweet as, was just interested. I've been smoking ciggies for 23?? years and have yet to actually genuinely enjoy one.
Dumb fuck huh!

[mashman]

Sweet as, was just interested. I've been smoking ciggies for 23?? years and have yet to actually genuinely enjoy one.
Dumb fuck huh!

heh, know wotcha mean. Don't have one til midday. Tis fleeting, but there is a buzz...

[DMNTD:Me]

heh, know wotcha mean. Don't have one til midday. Tis fleeting, but there is a buzz...

How many skins?

[onearmedbandit]

Sweet as, was just interested. I've been smoking ciggies for 23?? years and have yet to actually genuinely enjoy one.
Dumb fuck huh!

Really? For me I enjoy a cigarette for some quiet contemplation, 5 minutes to myself to sit, smoke and mull. Or after a sesh, or with a drink, after a meal, or reading a book or after a root.

[mashman]

How many skins?

just a normal single, no extras, and all of 2 or 3 mins of "joy", but not to be repeated unless you don't have another until about 5pm ... doesn't really help when yer trying to give up by cutting down.

[DMNTD:Me]

Really? For me I enjoy a cigarette for some quiet contemplation, 5 minutes to myself to sit, smoke and mull. Or after a sesh, or with a drink, after a meal, or reading a book or after a root.

Yep, really...in real life even!
I do know what you're getting at however I still don't genuinely enjoy it, it just satisfies my craving

[haydes55]

Feels fucking brilliant in the morning and after a meal, even better after or during a root.
It's my problem if I enjoy it (I start and stop often) living without it isn't a huge issue for me (currently three days without because I can't be fucked buying any)

Strokes for folks

During a root.... She likes a bit of hot ash in the face? Or doggy with an ash tray and a newspaper for reading on her back?

[Edbear]

Intrigued to know exactly what you enjoy about it...
It stinks, you get no 'hit' from it....where is the pleasure from smoking ciggies apart from stopping its "side effects"?

Feels fucking brilliant in the morning and after a meal, even better after or during a root.
It's my problem if I enjoy it (I start and stop often) living without it isn't a huge issue for me (currently three days without because I can't be fucked buying any)

Strokes for folks

What saddens me is that I have lost friends and family to cancer and heart/lung disease as a direct consequence of cigarette smoking. It is truly a horrible way to suffer and die. One got mouth/throat cancer, another the worst type of Emphisema and heart failure. It is not quick, it is horribly disfiguring and you suffer greatly until you just want to die and get it over with.

I know you have all your arguments and excuses but I also saw the the anguish and grief of the loved ones who had to watch them and care for them while they suffered and were left bereft. On top of that was the self-recriminations and regrets that they didn't listen and quit.

Sure you can point to old smokers, but even if you don't get one or more types of cancer now or soon, you can guarantee that when you do you won't be feeling too good and there is no reset button.

Really? For me I enjoy a cigarette for some quiet contemplation, 5 minutes to myself to sit, smoke and mull. Or after a sesh, or with a drink, after a meal, or reading a book or after a root.

[scissorhands]

oldest stoners in America

[ducatilover]

Sweet as, was just interested. I've been smoking ciggies for 23?? years and have yet to actually genuinely enjoy one.
Dumb fuck huh!

In the wise words of myself earlier today, "it's not my problem" I enjoy them, if it tastes poo, I put it out.

Really? For me I enjoy a cigarette for some quiet contemplation, 5 minutes to myself to sit, smoke and mull. Or after a sesh, or with a drink, after a meal, or reading a book or after a root.

+1

During a root.... She likes a bit of hot ash in the face? Or doggy with an ash tray and a newspaper for reading on her back?

The latter. The former is for birthdays only.

What saddens me is that I have lost friends and family to cancer and heart/lung disease as a direct consequence of cigarette smoking. It is truly a horrible way to suffer and die. One got mouth/throat cancer, another the worst type of Emphisema and heart failure. It is not quick, it is horribly disfiguring and you suffer greatly until you just want to die and get it over with.

I know you have all your arguments and excuses but I also saw the the anguish and grief of the loved ones who had to watch them and care for them while they suffered and were left bereft. On top of that was the self-recriminations and regrets that they didn't listen and quit.

Sure you can point to old smokers, but even if you don't get one or more types of cancer now or soon, you can guarantee that when you do you won't be feeling too good and there is no reset button.

I know where you're coming from Ed, my mother has emphysema, which is pushing me towards stopping altogether.
I smoke when I want, sometimes I am a full time smoker, sometimes not. Currently I have had one fag in the last five days without a single problem or craving, I am a lucky one I suppose.
I just find it nice to sit down and have a fag at the bottom (of the stairs) when I want, not when the cravings say so.
The first time I stopped, when I was 14, I had cravings and was a grumpy cock. Since then I can stop/start whenever suits me. I've had gaps of 8 months between smokes and have smoked as much as 80 grams a week.
Unless you've been in my shoes, one cannot pass judgement.

Plus, people dwell on mortal sentimentality far too bloody much.

[Edbear]

In the wise words of myself earlier today, "it's not my problem" I enjoy them, if it tastes poo, I put it out.


+1
The latter. The former is for birthdays only.

I know where you're coming from Ed, my mother has emphysema, which is pushing me towards stopping altogether.
I smoke when I want, sometimes I am a full time smoker, sometimes not. Currently I have had one fag in the last five days without a single problem or craving, I am a lucky one I suppose.
I just find it nice to sit down and have a fag at the bottom (of the stairs) when I want, not when the cravings say so.
The first time I stopped, when I was 14, I had cravings and was a grumpy cock. Since then I can stop/start whenever suits me. I've had gaps of 8 months between smokes and have smoked as much as 80 grams a week.
Unless you've been in my shoes, one cannot pass judgement.

Plus, people dwell on mortal sentimentality far too bloody much.

I'm not passing judgement here, on the contrary I am grateful that I never started smoking as I do know how hard it can be to quit having also seen family and friends quit. My post is to highlight the consequences and to ask, (plead?), with those who smoke to weigh up carefully and seriously the ramifications.

You don't just die. Few care about that enough to stop doing anything until they are actually facing death, rather you suffer for a long time and have to see your loved ones suffer as they care for you.

Please just take a moment to look at those dying of cancer, look at the effects on them and their families and know that it could be you next.

I have heard all the arguments by smokers, so before anyone does argue or excuse, please consider seriously that along with some other pursuits, smoking is. Russian Roulette with your health and life and includes the lives of those you love and who love you. It is your choice to smoke of course.

One other thing I do pass judgement on is the manufacturers who come under the definition of murderers selling a product they know will kill at least half of their customers and cause suffering to all in one way or another yet they couldn't care less about you as long ad they make money.