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    Quote Originally Posted by yod View Post


    oh dear....
    Scary eh?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skyryder View Post
    Not entirely true. While no number is actualy mentioned the figure of 6,000 years is arrived at through genealogies. The Bible provides a complete genealogy from Adam to Jesus. You can go through the genealogies and add up the years. You'll get a total that is just over 4,000 years. Add the 2,000 years since the time of Jesus and you get just over 6,000 years since God created everything.

    Don't think for one minute that I believe this but those who believe in the literal interpretation of the Bible do.

    http://www.missiontoamerica.org/gene...and-years.html

    As an aside to this recorded history is 6,000 years old.

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    A common misunderstanding. If you actually read it the 6,000 years was the time since Eve was created at the end of the 6th "day". There were 6 periods or "days" of creation which from our understanding of the scriptures were each of about 7,000 literal years long. The Bible doesn't actually give the specific spans in our literal years and the creation account was after the Earth itself was created. The Bible only says that "In the beginning God created the heavens and the Earth"without elborating as to when that was.

    Scientists are divided on the age of the rock we stand on with the general consensus being around 4 1/2 billion years. But no-one knows for sure.
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    I know GOD does exist. I met him at the Goldpine stall at the Southern Field Days a few years back. He was calling himself Colin Meads that day!!!!!!!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by DMNTD View Post
    Scary eh?
    Yup! Especially when the guidance is to be honest in everything, treat others with respect and dignity, love your neighbour but leave his wife alone. Work hard and concientously, study and use your brain and take responsibility for your choices and actions. Honour your wife and treat her as a cherished person. Take good care of your health and wellbeing.

    Man those rules would scare anyone!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Banditbandit View Post
    Or created yesterday, at 12 noon GMT exactly.
    Global warming. Its exactly 10 degrees warmer now than it was when I checked last night..........
    By the end of next week it will be a 1000 degrees I swear.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Edbear View Post
    Scientists are divided on the age of the rock we stand on with the general consensus being around 4 1/2 billion years. But no-one knows for sure.
    We musta been too stupid for religion for the first 4 and a bit billion then.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oldest_religion
    http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_is_th...n_in_the_world

    What I would like to know - is at what point do we start considering Scientology as legitimate?
    100 years?
    1000 years?
    10000 years?

    I worry for my great great great great grandchildren.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Edbear View Post
    Yup! Especially when the guidance is to be honest in everything, treat others with respect and dignity, love your neighbour but leave his wife alone. Work hard and concientously, study and use your brain and take responsibility for your choices and actions. Honour your wife and treat her as a cherished person. Take good care of your health and wellbeing.

    Man those rules would scare anyone!
    Sounds like the basic beliefs of Judaism.......
    “- He felt that his whole life was some kind of dream and he sometimes wondered whose it was and whether they were enjoying it.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by SPman View Post
    Sounds like the basic beliefs of Judaism.......
    Sounds like basic common sense to me...
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    There you go then..
    “- He felt that his whole life was some kind of dream and he sometimes wondered whose it was and whether they were enjoying it.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by SPman View Post
    There you go then..
    Just a shame so many don't want to abide by them, eh? Actually the Bible's full of common sense ideas, but religion has kinda ruined its rep by lying about it and being blood-thirsty, money-sucking hypocrites.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Edbear View Post
    Hmmmm.... You may have a wee bit of trouble convincing the scientists of that...
    Bloody heretics. They'd be thrown in jail in Norway or the Netherlands for that.
    It's only when you take the piss out of a partially shaved wookie with an overactive 'me' gene and stapled on piss flaps that it becomes a problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edbear View Post
    Actually the Bible's full of common sense ideas....
    ...but mostly just archaic drivel, e.g:

    "Throughout your generations every male among you shall be circumcised when he is eight days old, including the slave born in your house and the one bought with your money from any foreigner who is not of your offspring. Both the slave born in your house and the one bought with your money must be circumcised."
    Apparently, God's all good with mutilation and slavery...amongst other things.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DMNTD View Post
    I wouldn't worry too much there mister, as long as they have faith then it must be true
    LOL!!! I prefer faith based on knowledge myself....

    Quote Originally Posted by Skyryder View Post
    Not entirely true. While no number is actualy mentioned the figure of 6,000 years is arrived at through genealogies. The Bible provides a complete genealogy from Adam to Jesus. You can go through the genealogies and add up the years. You'll get a total that is just over 4,000 years. Add the 2,000 years since the time of Jesus and you get just over 6,000 years since God created everything.

    Don't think for one minute that I believe this but those who believe in the literal interpretation of the Bible do.

    http://www.missiontoamerica.org/gene...and-years.html

    As an aside to this recorded history is 6,000 years old.

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    Recorded history is only a few thousand years old which does ask a few questions...

    Quote Originally Posted by yod View Post
    ...but mostly just archaic drivel, e.g:

    Apparently, God's all good with mutilation and slavery...amongst other things.
    Interesting thing about circumcision is that back then it had a health benefit in a dusty climate with limited water supplies. A circumcised penis was much easier to keep clean and free of infections. The reason for the 8th day was discovered by modern medical science and is such that the amount of Vit. K, the blood-clotting vitamin, was at its peak then making the operation safer.

    As for slavery, have you bothered to read how slaves were to be treated under the Law? Very different from the nations around about.

    It pays to do your research before slagging off on topics you know little or nothing about...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Edbear View Post
    LOL!!! I prefer faith based on knowledge myself....



    Recorded history is only a few thousand years old which does ask a few questions...



    Interesting thing about circumcision is that back then it had a health benefit in a dusty climate with limited water supplies. A circumcised penis was much easier to keep clean and free of infections. The reason for the 8th day was discovered by modern medical science and is such that the amount of Vit. K, the blood-clotting vitamin, was at its peak then making the operation safer.

    As for slavery, have you bothered to read how slaves were to be treated under the Law? Very different from the nations around about.

    It pays to do your research before slagging off on topics you know little or nothing about...
    You of course, know exactly what I know and don't know about these topics, don't ya boss

    Indeed, it's widely believed circumcision at the time was for health reasons, rather than some primitive covenant with some 'god', which therefore suggests the bible was not at all the 'word' of the aforementioned 'god' but simply man's best effort at a rulebook at the time. But I'm sure you know that, it's pretty fucking obvious.This paradigm is rife throughout, but then, you already knew that too I'm sure.

    As for slavery, regardless of their treatment, they're still slaves. If it's so mind-bogglingly wonderful, let's bring it back shall we? Got any young daughters I can buy? Promise I'll treat them with as much respect as Lot would.

    Seriously my firend, when claims are made that a guy (who allegedly lived for 950 years) can magically fit several billion species, as well as a couple of months of their specific nutritional requirements into a boat roughly the size of the Interislander and then pop them all back where they belong all over the planet, you know you're reading fiction.
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    Quote Originally Posted by yod View Post
    You of course, know exactly what I know and don't know about these topics, don't ya boss

    Indeed, it's widely believed circumcision at the time was for health reasons, rather than some primitive covenant with some 'god', which therefore suggests the bible was not at all the 'word' of the aforementioned 'god' but simply man's best effort at a rulebook at the time. But I'm sure you know that, it's pretty fucking obvious.This paradigm is rife throughout, but then, you already knew that too I'm sure.

    As for slavery, regardless of their treatment, they're still slaves. If it's so mind-bogglingly wonderful, let's bring it back shall we? Got any young daughters I can buy? Promise I'll treat them with as much respect as Lot would.

    Seriously my firend, when claims are made that a guy (who allegedly lived for 950 years) can magically fit several billion species, as well as a couple of months of their specific nutritional requirements into a boat roughly the size of the Interislander and then pop them all back where they belong all over the planet, you know you're reading fiction.
    Pardon me, but your ignorance of what the Bible actually says is showing very clearly. Yes the circumcision was as a sign of a covenant with God. The fact that it was a health benefit and the fact of the 8th day, shows that more than man's knowledge was at play. No-one of the time would have known or even thought of any benefits to chopping off the foreskin and certainly no-one would have known that the 8th day was the best time to do it. Like many things in scripture it has taken modern science to discover what was written thousands of years ago.

    As for slavery, the Israelite system was far removed from the nations around them who were particularly cruel and sadistic in their seizing and use of slaves. In Israel a person could sell himself into slavery to pay debts or to provide for his family if his circumstances took a bad downturn. Slaves were to be treated with kindness, honesty, properly cared for as to their health and housing and offered freedom every seven years. They were not to be beaten or raped and had full legal rights under the Law as to justice. Often a slave would turn down the offer of freedom due to the way he was treated by his owner and would remain in service for the rest of his life.

    As I said, if you want to slag off, at least know what you're talking about.
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