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    First Aid training

    I had a very Shocking experience last Thursday morning. I went around to a very very good friends house about 30 minutes after speaking to him on the phone, to find him lying on the floor just inside his front door, face down, not breathing and no pulse.

    Instantly called 111 after checking for breathing and a pulse, 111 were fantastic with instructions, and I proceeded to do CPR " Cardio pulmonary resuscitation to try to get my mate going again.

    Very long story cut short, after 127 pumps on his chest his eye moved, he was trying to re gain life and at 537 pumps on his chest the Ambulance crew arrived and took over, and got his heart beat semi stable, but he had another heart attack on the way to the hospital, and passed away at a later time.

    The point to this is, If I had known more about first aid, and the man had not had a serious heart attach, I may have been able to keep my mate walking on this earth, the time he was down and not breathing and pumping was the problem long term.

    A Road car crash with no one around and your first aid skills could keep a another human alive on earth, so I urge as many people as possible to get into a thorough first aid course, in case your future skills are needed.

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    Sorry to hear about your friend Shaun.

    I can only agree with you though. I did a two day first aid course a few years ago, which was aimed at outdoor activities, but they teach CPR also. Totally worthwhile.

    In fact you've reminded me to look for a refresher course.

    The St Johns ones are excellent.
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    I have to agree, its great training to have.
    Can be quite pricey, but most employers will happily pay for staff to do a course if they want it.
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    It is certainly a good skill to have. As Froggy says, most employers are happy to pay for it. You never know when it will be needed.
    Sorry to hear your mate didn't make it. My condolences to you.
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    Cheers Guys, the good thing about Helping keep him going for a while was, his Daughters and his wife got to see him smile for the last time just as he moved on.


    Go train hard crew.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shaun View Post
    Go train hard crew.
    Well done, great effort clearly from a great mate..

    I'd like to expand your advice of individuals being 1st aid trained and suggest that riders should carry a first aid kit and fire extinguisher on their bikes (or back pack), also a multi tool.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shaun View Post
    The point to this is, If I had known more about first aid, and the man had not had a serious heart attach, I may have been able to keep my mate walking on this earth
    No mate you did well. Chances are he may have still died with an AED ready to slap on him straight away.

    A friend of mine is PHEC qualified (as am I) and even with all the extra training etc we do on top of that, his girlfriends uncle still died from a very similar situation, in fact he was right there when the uncle collapsed so started right away and he still died.

    Don't for a second beat yourself up or think that you should have been able to save him. You did exactly what CPR is supposed to do; you kept in alive until the ambos turned up. Good work.....
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    Very very sorry to hear this mate. Thoughts and condolences are with you.

    I commend you for all that you did do for him, and I believe even with first aid training and experience there may have been nothing more that you could do for him. You did an amazing job of CPR, and it is utterly exhausting and terrifying. Well done you, you need to be proud of yourself in this situation.

    I have just done my refresher first aid course, and also urge people to do them. I knew the basics, but this has equipped me with the knowledge on how to approach and deal with several different situations to the best of my ability, and gives me confidence that I may be able to help if it is ever needed. The main reason I wanted to do this is because most weeks I go on large group rides. It's an awful thought, but it's hard not to think that one day you just may have to be in a situation out on the road when you DO need to act, and first aid training is a very good start.

    I hope you have some wonderful support around you Shaun through this time. In my eyes, and I know you would have been in his too, you are a hero.

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    Don't beat yourself up about not being able to save your mate. You can't cheat death.

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    Thanks for the mental support folks. I am not NO Longer beating myself up, but for the 2 days after the event, all I wished was I was killed in my bike crash, I know that is Pathetic, but with my current on going repairing serious head injuries, it was just how I fealt and reacted to it.

    In Hind sight, this has shown me a new lease of life ( Thanks Motion) and I will no longer ever have a wo is me moment, there is always others in a worse situation.

    I will 100% be going ahead with Proffesional first aid training, and a local company owner who was also a friend of Motion, had contacted me this morning to say they are Paying for me to do it

    Happy days folks
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shaun View Post
    Thanks for the mental support folks. I am not NO Longer beating myself up, but for the 2 days after the event, all I wished was I was killed in my bike crash, I know that is Pathetic, but with my current on going repairing serious head injuries, it was just how I fealt and reacted to it.

    In Hind sight, this has shown me a new lease of life ( Thanks Motion) and I will no longer ever have a wo is me moment, there is always others in a worse situation.

    I will 100% be going ahead with Proffesional first aid training, and a local company owner who was also a friend of Motion, had contacted me this morning to say they are Paying for me to do it

    Happy days folks
    Well done Shaun - a wonderful attitude to come away with, and one we should all be so lucky in sharing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Katiepie View Post
    Well done Shaun - a wonderful attitude to come away with, and one we should all be so lucky in sharing.


    Cheers Katiepie, after Dying on the operating table 3 times after my crash, I AM THE LUCKIEST MAN ALIVE, and will go forward with that attitude
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shaun View Post
    ..there is always others in a worse situation.
    Absolutely agree on that one!!! ALWAYS!!!

    No matter how hard things can seem.

    Good on you Shaun.

    My girlfriend lost her (very young) man after a heart attack, she did chest compressions and breathing, but unfortunately lost him anyway...turned out later there was possibly nothing she could've done as a long standing problem was found.

    Having First Aid knowledge should be a must, I've done four courses in my adult lifetime and well overdue a refresher course, thanks for the reminder..

    Good luck with continued healing..
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    Quote Originally Posted by froggyfrenchman View Post
    Can be quite pricey
    Its dirt cheap.
    $2-300 for 2 days training.

    Compare that to all the other training course out there, you will be hard to find one less than $700 a DAY!

    Go do it people. It WILL save some else's life, perhaps even your own.
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    Quote Originally Posted by firefighter View Post
    No mate you did well..........Don't for a second beat yourself up or think that you should have been able to save him. You did exactly what CPR is supposed to do; you kept in alive until the ambos turned up. Good work.....
    What he said.

    You took a dead man, and increased his chance of continued life from 0% to 10%. And you managed to get him ALIVE again, even for a short period of time.

    You gave life man.
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