This could get interesting...
http://nz.news.yahoo.com/a/-/top-sto...d-middle-east/
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This could get interesting...
http://nz.news.yahoo.com/a/-/top-sto...d-middle-east/
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It is, isn't it.
When I'm in charge, we'll get rid of all the undesireables. Then it'll be much less revolting.
Originally Posted by rachprice
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This has been a popular topic in my shop recently. I keep thinking about Iraq & Iran after their dictators were deposed & the factions that are trying or have filled the political vacuum.
We live in interesting times...
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it cracks me up that the media think that democracy will save the day... let alone the people thinking the same. Still, if it buys them another 5 years, great...
Couldn't have come at a better time either as me mum is awf to Egypt next weekend, unless i can talk her out of it and as long as she has her life insurance policy up to date
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Yeah ... what are you all going to say if the Middle East goes entirely democratic .. and the people vote for the Islamic Parties ??? Like Lebanon did ...
"So if you meet me, have some sympathy, have some courtesy, have some taste ..."
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That is entirely likely, of course. The main issue for the world is that regardless of the desirability or otherwise of the regimes, the East is heading for unknown instability rather than the general stability up until now.
Shades of the USSR but with the added uncertainty of extremeism.
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I think the Egypt scenario will remove of lot of that instability problerm and show that a change of political process can be brought about by "peaceful" protest. Mubarak wouldn't step down. That's when it started turning to shit, so hopefully the Jordanian, Algerian etc... leaders will take note of this and move aside at the request of their peoples.
The problem is that the core issues that brought people out of their homes, will most likely still remain. Where are all of these jobs going to come from? Where's all the money for govt "reform" going to come from?
And having had a taste of kicking out a "useless" govt, do Middle Eastern countries really need to move towards a democracy to solve their problems? I mean, we've seen the western world become socially bankrupt because TPTB rotate in and out in short term cycles that do nothing for "society" other than change a few laws and financially opress their people.
Society does not get better and better these days, quite the opposite. The core issues that the Middle East are facing are very similar to, if not exactly the same, as those here in the West. Health, Employment, Education etc... the political system that is in place has very little to do with how the private economy works and it's the private economy, and its profit driven model, that's "caused" all of these issues.
Sorry, I just don't see the political model, regime/democracy/socialism etc..., as having much of a bearing in regards to support for the people. We have different systems, yet we all suffer the same issues. Why?
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To many divisions amongst people living by thier various Dogmas.....before there was a GOD there was GOOD.What Im trying to say is that GOD is just a misspelling of the original word GOOD...."cause in whatever language GOOD means GOOD, GOD seems to mean as many problems as it solves. You dont need to be religious to understand the meaning of being or doing GOOD.As for GOD, does anyone really understand GOD? Seems to me its a great way to dissagree with your neighbour on its idiosincracies.JUst being GOOD to yourself ,youre neighbour ,youre country & our planet seems a way simpler option.Doing GOOD promotes working together & creates a feeling of GOODWILL. GOD seems to promote "itself" & create a lot of schism.
The worst GOD of the lot is ....
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Its been revolting for millions of years man. That's how come we have night and day.
It wasn't until a while ago that we realized the earth revolts around the sun and not vice versa.
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There .. fixed that for you ... stability enforced with a gun !!!!
Are you fucking kidding me? How much weed did you smoke before you thought of that ???
If there was no God to punish bad people and reward good people, where is the incentive for most people to be good??? If people did not believe that good people go to heaven and bad people burn in hell forever - i.e. if most peole beleived dead is dead ... then we'd have one hell of a BAD party ...
Get real ... Most people need a judgemental boogie man in the sky writing in his big book and handing out punishment just like Daddy did !!!!
Last edited by Banditbandit; 14th February 2011 at 16:26. Reason: Removed invective (yeahright)
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You're not wrong, of course which is why I had the provisio in there. As with Iraq, though, the country, and the Middle East in general is less stable now. There never was going to be an easy answer. Democracy won't ever work in a country and for a people who have only ever known tribal/feudal extremeism and the rule of force.
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I don't believe in God, well not really and She/He/It/Them are definately not an incentive for how I go about my life, dead or not
Most people, imho, just need to see the hurt they cause to others (took me a while to pay attention to it)... by all means seek solice in the words of the "lord" etc... but treating it like it is gospel and living your life according to the teachings of a book has proven to be one of the most dangerous things ever to be let loose on the populace... especially under the guise of things being done as "Gods" work
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A common misunderstanding. People confuse religious dogma with the teachings of the Bible. This is deliberately promoted by the churches who actively use lies and half-truths to support their hypocrisy, greed and bloodshed "in the name of God". If they can rationalise or justify their desire for power, wealth and control by saying it is "God' Will", they believe they will fool the majority of the common people into supporting them.I don't believe in God, well not really and She/He/It/Them are definately not an incentive for how I go about my life, dead or not
Most people, imho, just need to see the hurt they cause to others (took me a while to pay attention to it
Funnily enough, this has been, in fact, the case throughout most of Man's history until lately as the record of so-called "Christianity" is being more and more seen for what it is.
The truth is that Christendom is diametrically opposed to scripture and absolutely condemned in scripture for its lies, deceipt and hypocrisy. You don't go to Heaven or Hell when you die, there is no firery lake of torture for the baddies or sitting on clouds playing harps for the goodies. There's no Trinity of God(s) and no immortal soul.
So while you can certainly blame religion - both "Christian" and Pagan - for the ills of the world, the Bible has little to do with it but as a prop for lies.
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Heh, common misunderstandings are people reading what they want into what was written... I meant pretty much all of what you said, not the opposite, as we are what we are and excusing ones self based on ones religious belief is utter bullshit (using laymans terms) and highly disrespectful towards the human race and its billions of individuals
... turns out the internet is as bad as the bible
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