Embarrassing: Failing Basic Handling Skills!

**DangerMice** · 14th February 2011, 19:01

No license, no insurance, can't pass BHS.

. Hope she has plenty of savings for when she smacks into that Merc.

**Genestho** · 14th February 2011, 19:01

Originally Posted by phill-k

So these exercises will keep her safe, you're joking mate, or I bloody hope you are, might see her being able to get round a round about, but won't teach her a bloody thing about all the hazards out there including the tossers driving cages, other dick head bikers, road conditions,riding in the wet, fuck I could go on and on, all of that comes from being on the road not riding round cones.

NO! But it will hopefully help her pass her BHS Test, which is why she's posted! Aka - Positive, legal, helpful encouragement!

**Little Miss Trouble** · 14th February 2011, 19:04

Originally Posted by Genestho

Sense at last, thankyou!

I'd offer to do it myself (taught a few people in the work carpark back when I still had a 250) if I hadn't just shifted out of BOP back to Auckland

**KiWiP** · 14th February 2011, 19:09

Not dealing with the rights or wrongs as everyone has their personal take on that.

Riding on the roads without your learners will get you into trouble if caught. Which you can do by a random stop (bad luck), a legitimate stop (because you've brought yourself to "the man's" attention - likely if you're not good at the basics) or you crash (really bad if someone gets hurt/killed)

If you failed I would reckon you have done no training with someone who knows what they are talking about. I would recommend you have a lesson before you sit the next one. A good instructor will give you buckets of little pointers to keep you alive above and beyond what you need to pass the BHS. Mine did (cheers QCKCHK).

Best of skill (but no luck) for next time

**Okey Dokey** · 14th February 2011, 19:47

Find someone to help you practice low speed riding somewhere. Cones would be ideal, but even doing small circles or figure-eights would be great. Please get your BHS before you hit the roads anymore. The liabilities on your head are too great to ignore.

I did my BHS on a GSXR 750- no shit. The only bike available to me. I had to trailer it to and from the course. Don't lie to yourself that your 250 is too big. Master the skill involved, be proud and then move on to road riding

**Qkkid** · 14th February 2011, 20:12

Originally Posted by phill-k

I have no idea but she says she is competent on her bike and I for one won't argue with her on that statement and as long as she realises that her life is on the line, I'll support getting out there and doing it.

One of the reasons why you have to do a Basic Handling Skills test and you have to pass to be on the road is
1 Everything is done at slow speed to show your competency at riding slow
Anyone can go fast but to go slow takes a little skill
2 Cone weave is all about clutch control, shifting bodyweight around as going through the cones.
Now if you cant manage these things "basic" fundamental manuoveurs
then you surely shouldnt be on the road?

**neels** · 14th February 2011, 20:13

Practice.

A search on the interweb will give you the layout of the cones to practice on, get yourself some empty coke bottles and set them up in a car park.

Check out if the tester also does a pre test instruction deal, might be worth the money to get a few pointers before you do the test rather than coughing up for the cost of another fail.

And riding without a licence is a bit naughty and a bit risky, insurance companies enjoy hounding uninsured people for all eternity for the cost of accident repairs.

**rustic101** · 14th February 2011, 20:35

Hey there Kate,

I've never done a BHT, I got my licence by being followed by Kerry Salt the local MOT bike cop. It was straight forward as he use to try and chase me prior to me actually having a licence..

I learnt how to ride on a farm, then Moto Cross as a kid and teen. The great thing about riding dirt bikes is it improves your balance, field of vision and reaction skills, plus other benefits. Give it a crack you will learn far better skills riding at slow speed and in an area that allows you to focus on the task rather than everything else around you which should may could help you pass the test.

With respect to the cone things, never look at the ground or object you are navigating around, look where you want to go. Seriously I would get a mentor.

From a moral, safety (yours /others) and legal perspective Kate - please, I implore you get legal first, then hit (no pun intended) the roads. No mater how good you think you may be.

**Mom** · 14th February 2011, 20:40

Originally Posted by phill-k

Fuck off how many bikers have been taken out by other bikers

A few too many

Originally Posted by phill-k

turn your concern to the thousands of incompetent car drivers they are the ones you need to be concerned about

If you dont keep wary of the SIDNSY drivers, you are a fool.

Originally Posted by phill-k

There has been a lot of vitriol spouted here by the do gooders the religious nuts and those that seem to be able to judge you better than you can.

If what I have posted is vitriol, then I own it

I am not a religious nut!

I would enjoy the opportunity to share a coffee with you so I can really understand where you are coming from. Feel free to ring/text me to arrange a convenient time.

Mom 0274 599 925 - for the record my name is Anne.

**Mom** · 14th February 2011, 20:52

Originally Posted by Stirts

Seriously though.....
she just didn't wear a low cut top when she sat her BHS

Some of us dont have big tits to show off...

**hellokitty** · 14th February 2011, 20:54

Originally Posted by KateZed

I ride a GSX and am fairly competent on the road. The guy reckoned that my bike was too big??

Kate

My husband did the BHS test on a 1200 Bandit and he did the cones with no issues.

Originally Posted by Jantar

Wait untill the 250 cc limit is removed from learners and watch how many fail the BHS test. There are heaps of bikes that are just physically too big to weave through the cones. In many cases it isn't even possible to try and walk the bike through, but this is what happens when the test is designed for a particular bike. Next time do it on a GN125 and you'll have no trouble.

It can be done on a 1200 Bandit...

Originally Posted by phill-k

perhaps the tester just doesn't like chicks on bikes,

I had one of those and I passed 100%

Originally Posted by sunhuntin

i nearly failed the cone thing on a gn250. the tester said the bike was "too long" and set the cones as wide as he was allowed. theres no way id get my virago through them, and thats a 250. rest of the test was a breeze, cept for the cones.

I can do cones on my bike = a 750cc cruiser

If someone has been riding on the road for 3 months, they should be able to do the basics surely??

**hellokitty** · 14th February 2011, 20:55

Originally Posted by Mom

Some of us dont have big tits to show off...

Big tits only come in handy when wanting discounts at bike shops.

**Tink** · 14th February 2011, 20:55

I have noticed Kate has not much to say, I hope the positive feed back from LMT and others is good advice.

Mom hope you get contacted...

I am still learning every time I get on my bike, or on kb... every day and I can say I am fully licensed, the BHS might seem not worthy of some here, but its a step on too the road so if you can't pass it... there is something missing... and you need to work on it, nerves, bad hair, whatever... don't blame the bike, the cones, talk to the instructor before you do it... blah blah.

Then join the "Ban the fun police".... but do it legal!