Embarrassing: Failing Basic Handling Skills!

[Crasherfromwayback]

Thank you for your opinion Caseye, after 7 pages of comments I really was just after some advice (and previous experiences) on the BHSC. I felt I needed to give a bit of background on my circumstances so people could give me some accurate advice.

It really wasn't my intention for people to comment on whether I (or anyone) should be on the road without a licence.

Listen...something you'll very soon learn about KB. You're female. Half of the guys here want to root you, the other half want to put you down because they're sad cunts, and feel theatened by a chick on a bike. But all of them probably have one thing in common. They probably learnt to drive a fucking car, without a licence, with either a mate, or a parent sitting next to them on the seat, on the very same roads we all share. Hands up who didn't? You think you would've got insurance if you'd smashed your old mans HQ into the side of a Rolls Royce way back then?

A lot of you people mean well I know...but for fucks sake! Hypocrisy sucks serious arse. I say go you. It seems to me you already know your limitations and are riding to them.

[Maha]

My hand is up...
First driving lesson I had was from an Aunty around a her street in an Morris 1100.
I advanced to driving lessons from and instuctor, three lessons from memory.
Got my license and I was away.
Never once did I drive on the road without being licensed.

Even when did my BHS, I got Anne to drive me down to Northcote....passed that very day.
Bought a 600 while still on my restricted, got a fully licensed mate to go and pick it up from Auckland for me.
And yes, before you ask, I rode the 600 while on my restricted.

Which half do come under Pete?
I am married to a female biker so I guess theres another catagory?

[Crasherfromwayback]

My hand is up...
First driving lesson I had was from an Aunty around a her street in an Morris 1100.


Never once did I drive on the road without being licensed.

Bought a 600 while still on my restricted, got a fully licensed mate to go and pick it up from Auckland for me.

And yes, before you ask, I rode the 600 while on my restricted.

And there you have it! By the way..you obviously did drive on the road whilst being unlicensed. So you see folks...first stone an all. Good on you for being man enough to fess up.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Which half do come under Pete?
I am married to a female biker so I guess theres another catagory?

Sorry. Forgot to answer that bit! I was referring to the guys here (male and female) that are knocking the op. I was not (and never would) knocking her, as I too learnt on public roads how to drive, well before I was legally able to. To this day, I've never had an accident whilst driving.

[hellokitty]

And there you have it! By the way..you obviously did drive on the road whilst being unlicensed. So you see folks...first stone an all. Good on you for being man enough to fess up.

The first time I drove a car was when my loser bf came to pick me up and was so drunk he couldn't walk straight. I had to drive a mint Valiant Charger back to his house - I think I drove down the middle of the road because I was scared of hitting parked cars. I was so ignorant that I didn't even know the difference between a manual and an automatic - I was trying to change gear in an auto.

The week after that he nearly killed me while driving drunk.

Got my learners and driving lessons the following week.....

[Crasherfromwayback]

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[MSTRS:Me]

Just to clarify something I'd said earlier in the thread - Don't you need to have your Learner's Licence before you ride on "the road"? Just having the BHS/BHSC or whatever you want to call it isn't enough is it?

Yep. 6L is granted via the scratchie test (do they still do 5 oral as well?). Can't do the scratchie without showing the BHS pass.

Listen...something you'll very soon learn about KB. You're female. Half of the guys here want to root you, the other half want to put you down because they're sad cunts, and feel theatened by a chick on a bike. But all of them probably have one thing in common. They probably learnt to drive a fucking car, without a licence, with either a mate, or a parent sitting next to them on the seat, on the very same roads we all share. Hands up who didn't? You think you would've got insurance if you'd smashed your old mans HQ into the side of a Rolls Royce way back then?

Depends how far back you want to go...
Early 1970s - the traffic wasn't as thick (shall we say), the cars/bikes didn't have the same power, there was no requirement to have a licence when accompanied by a licence holder (except on a bike and there was no BHS, just the multi choice/oral test), and the penalties for being caught without a licence were not exactly severe. "Go get a licence, and we'll say no more about it"-sort of thing.

[Hawkeye]

+1.

That's first thing that came into my head. Been riding for 3 months and fails the BHS.

Please tell me the 3 months HASN'T been on the road!
Just re-read the original post and realize YOU HAVE been riding on the road.

Tauranga - not Wellington! Phew!

Thanks so much everyone for your help.

Sounds like practice is the key. I will get there!! haha

Also...Just to clarify - when i said out on the road, i mean i live semi-rural. So i ride down to the closest subdivision and ride around there, not like out on the road road.

Also when i mean 3 months i mean i've owned the bike three months and spent the first month "learning" (obviously I need a new tutor!! haha) at our neighbours on their driveway and with my sporting commitments can only get out a couple of nights a week to my local subdivision.

Also whoever it was prattling on about insurance - thank you, due to my occupation I know all the rules!!

Thank you for clarifying the situation Kate. As has already been said, the general theme of this thread has been take care, get some help, and do it the right way. You appear to be doing just that. So good on you.
Good luck with the next test. You know what you need to work on so you will get there.


oh! and welcome to KB

You have now realised that anything posted on KB will get interpreted lot's of different way's. Take the good...... and ignore the dross.

[GSXR Trace]

I agree with the others to keep practicing, however when i turned up on an fxr the instructor told me to sit the test on his GN due to the size of the fxr, so maybe ask if you can do it on their bike and it will be even easier. However it is 8 years since I sat my basic handling so they may not allow that now, I don't know. Also i think if you go and do a couple of practice sessions with the instructor and then sit it with them, it may help

good luck

[buellbabe]

Phew...its taken me 2 days to read all this thread, I found myself feeling a bit sorry for Katezed at some point but a part of me was thinking the same as many others about the no licence but riding it on roads?

So it turns out that by that she meant around the local subdivision so thats a bit better but still not ideal.

I got my licence so many years ago that I am a bit out of touch with the steps a learner has to go through these days but my advice is to get some training from a professional. I know there are training courses available that will take you right through to the Basic Handling final test and you should have a licence by the end of it.

For the record when I got my bike licence the steps went like this

Friday:Answer 5 oral questions

Pass . Instant provisional licence which allowed me to ride a bike up to and including 250cc

Saturday Morning: take delivery of brand spanking new yamaha DT175.

happy happy joy joy

Saturday Arvo and Sunday Morning: learn to ride motorbike around the sports field that happened to border my property (how convenient!)

Sunday Arvo: got told off by local cop for riding on the grass field so took it to the nearest Foodtown carpark...not open on Sunday back then!

Monday Morning: riding to work...

6 months later did a ride around cones then around the block followed by a cop and was granted a restricted licence which became automatically full after another 6 months.

YEE HAAAAAAA!

Since then, a shit load more riding and life experience and you are never too experienced to stop learning new skills.

ENJOY!

[Gone Burger]

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[Crasherfromwayback]

Nice plug Pete....

Well...safety and I go hand in hand ya know!

[cold comfort]

[QUOTE=KateZed;1129987878]Thanks so much everyone for your help.

Sounds like practice is the key. I will get there!! haha

If it makes you feel better my wife (whilst in professional tutelage) shot off the end of the cones, impaled the bike on the end of one barrier arm, her face with the other. Result; one black eye, one dead bike, and severe embarrassment.

[davebullet]

Slow speed and general road riding are completely different skillsets.

Someone can be competent enough to pootle around and duck waddle when they need to. Doesn't mean they'll pass their BHS - but it doesn't mean they are a deathtrap on the road either.

Kate - you will pass with practice. Get yourself to a dis-used parking lot. Schools can be quite useful (google some and with satellite view you might find some with decent carparks). You know what you are practicing for. Just remember to keep your eyes up and level - never never look down! (that's one sure way to hit cones!).

[KateZed]

If it makes you feel better my wife (whilst in professional tutelage) shot off the end of the cones, impaled the bike on the end of one barrier arm, her face with the other. Result; one black eye, one dead bike, and severe embarrassment.

Haha - this has made me feel better, although a little sorry for your wife, I hope she recovered!!

For anyone that was interested... I re-sat my test yesterday and PASSED!! Woohoo!!