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    Giving other riders advice.

    Gear threads.

    Tell your accident story threads.

    Replacing suspension components with chicken drumsticks threads.

    Lubricating chains with petrol threads.

    Dynamo fuel additive will make your bike run better and more economically.

    They come and go.

    In 20 years of watching people crash and burn you see some pretty dumb stuff.

    But there are constants.

    • Male motorcyclists aren't ready to have their riding capabilities and habits reviewed until they've been hurt badly and are a minimum of 40 years of age.
    • Female motorcyclists of any age invariably seek out the most battered male motorcyclist they can find for help on surviving in traffic, slow speed handling tips, and lessons on how to pick a bike up.
    • Male motorcyclists under 24 know everything there is to know about riding a bike.
    • Female motorcyclists never arrive at their destination with a 0 blink rate, soaked in perspiration, or tell tales of near misses. They arrive 30 seconds after the leading gaggle of males under 40. Then order sensible salads and drink lots of water, and maybe one coffee. Not 6 pies, three beers and 4 espressos.
    So, some observations:
    • If you're a bloke complaining about someone riding like an idiot you are a stinking hypocrite. Shut up. Nobody cares about your new found evangelistic fervor for "road safety".
    • If you're a bloke under 24, stay away from the people over 40. They've had their fill of organising trailers, ringing ambulances and parents/girlfriends, and listening to you babble about how brilliant it would have been if you could have just pulled off the massif overtake while wheelying, while they apply pressure to two major arteries and try to stop you moving the leg with two compound fractures of the femur.
    • If you're a bloke under 24, you're going to get lectured about your riding "habits". Shut up and listen. If you don't agree or it makes you angry THEN THE PERSON TELLING YOU OFF IS 100% RIGHT ABOUT YOUR KNOBBISH BEHAVIOUR.
    • If you're a woman on a group ride, for God's sake, take charge and deploy a Female lead rider, and a female tail-end Charlie.
    • If some people are trying to help make the road a safer place for you and you aren't prepared to help in any way, Shut up. Conversely, if you have an opposing view, make sure it is backed up with better facts than those uttered by a third cousin's best mate who used to shag a woman who worked at the counter of the AA in Kaitaia.
    • Robert Taylor knows more about suspension than some bloke who runs a website from Latvia and purports to come from Florida. If Robert says it's wrong, it IS wrong.
    Worry about your own stuff. I couldn't care less if someone is wearing a push bike helmet, jandals, a thong, and a bikini top while riding a scooter. Except to have a bloody good ogle, providing the rider meets basic ogling standards. I'm over 40 so those standards pretty much mean female and no moustache.

    Riding bikes isn't a religion. Very few people are going to conform to your idea of the "perfect rider", so for goodness sakes let it go unless someone asks you for help. If you don't know, say so.
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    Ouch ..... bitter much ??

    Must admit, i agree with 70% of your rant and i bow down to your wisdom

    However the 30% i don't agree with is all about not caring about our fellow bikers, i for one don't want to see anyone hurt doing something I love and i will voice my opinion about people riding in jandals' and shorts with relish and volume.

    And for all of the things that we aren't allowed to do in this country, i am still able to shake my head and call people idiots if I want too (and once they fall off in said jandal's and shorts, they will never ride in that gear again)

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    But... but... um... it's the internet! It's supposed to be dumb and repetitive and stupid and full of bad advice.
    It's in the book of internet rules.

    But saying that, yes, you are quite right.
    Pointing it out ain't gonna stop anyone though.

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    So what you're really trying to say is that women are on to it and guys are silly and run on testoterone, pies and caffine???

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    Bugger ... now what am I supposed to do with the "Wearing Frilly Pink Knickers Will Calm You Down" thread I was just in the middle of composing????

    - Pink calms people, there's cells at Police Stations in pink for just that reason.
    - There's no testosterone in frilly knickers so riding would be done with the head not the other bit.

    I'm devastated that this will be labelled frivilous and of little benefit to new riders

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    Awesome post!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim2 View Post
    You're all idiots.
    Burn him!
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    I hate riding with other people and rarely do it. So I'm always at the front

    Other than that, good post.

    But them 24 year old boys, they wont listen. You know that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jrandom View Post
    Burn him!
    I'm kind of confused about a thread telling us not to tell people what to do which is telling us what to do

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    You cynical old bugger jim
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim2 View Post
    [*]Male motorcyclists aren't ready to have their riding capabilities and habits reviewed until they've been hurt badly and are a minimum of 40 years of age.
    Get out of the wrong side of the bed Jim? I mostly agree with you but not the one above. I haven't had a bad accident (desperately looks for wood... oh that's right, my head). When I bought the Blackbird, I KNEW that I'd either be emptying my wallet on a regular basis to support state coffers, or more worryingly; end up dead as I simply wasn't good enough to ride it well. Swallowed pride and enrolled on an advanced 1:1 course with the ex-chief instructor of the M.O.T, Ward Fischer. Ego at rock bottom after an hour (not the instructor's fault), and the rest of the course was sublime. Still alive and maybe making a reasonable fist of riding. That course genuinely turned my riding round 5 years ago.

    Cheers,

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grub View Post
    "Wearing Frilly Pink Knickers Will Calm You Down"

    - Pink calms people, there's cells at Police Stations in pink for just that reason.
    - There's no testosterone in frilly knickers so riding would be done with the head not the other bit.
    And besides, who wants the ambos cutting your leathers off to find you're wearing pink frilly knickers? There's a slowing thought...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mrs Kendog View Post
    So what you're really trying to say is that women are on to it and guys are silly and run on testoterone, pies and caffine???
    AND beer is said..........let us not forget
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    I love being slotted into a stereotype!

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    Quote Originally Posted by NC View Post
    But them 24 year old boys, they wont listen. You know that.
    God aint that the truth... I mean I try - The crotchless chaps, the fishy lips, the coy glances - nothing...

    Any way...

    Good post Jim2... Difference is one day you come out the other side and you end up knowing good pricks like you whom you would ride with wheel to wheel to heck and back and not blink an eye... Thats what it's about....

    Fuck me - good folks are good folks - age matters not...

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