Too busy for burglaries

[imdying]

what you need is a big fuckoff dog

Mince meat, broken up beer bottle, roll into a patty, throw over the fence. There's your big fuckoff dog sorted. If I were a thief, I'd have qualms about disposing of pets.

[onearmedbandit]

Mince meat, broken up beer bottle, roll into a patty, throw over the fence. There's your big fuckoff dog sorted. If I were a thief, I'd have qualms about disposing of pets.

The breeder of our Rottweilers had trained his dogs not to accept food from anywhere other than his hand for exactly that reason.

[JimO]

Mince meat, broken up beer bottle, roll into a patty, throw over the fence. There's your big fuckoff dog sorted. If I were a thief, I'd have qualms about disposing of pets.

you also need to keep the big fuckoff dog in the house

[Mom]

Nothing new in this news. The availability of SOCO support for our local constabulary is a well known thing.

Being told to touch nothing is all very well and good, but for 4 days?

Now that is silly, but sadly how it is.

When we got burgled, it was easy to identify where they got in, but there was no way we could not live in our home. So, things got touched. The entry point was able to be isolated, and prints obtained. It was admitted to me later that they only send SOCO to a burglary to gather finger/palm/what-have-you prints to load in the database to compare to future ones gathered. The comment that "not all theives wear gloves" was apparently supposed to comfort me.

No actual investigation is done, bar running any evidence gathered through their computers, searching for a match. That, and maybe a bit of a chat to the "local yoof" for small time stuff. Of course it is noted and distributed if any items are easily recognised, otherwise, tough luck you that lost your bits and bobs.

Almost not worth bothering to report really, but you need a Police file number to claim insurance. Paperwork sucks!

[SMOKEU]

I've heard on my scanner many times before that an old person calls 111 to say that someone in a Skyline/Cefiro/Laurel just did a skid outside their house, so at least 1 police car is sent to that area urgently to try and find the offending vehicle, yet burglaries aren't treated anywhere near as seriously.

Where is the justice in that?

[98tls]

Spend a few hours in the 111 call center and you will understand why theres not a cop available to attend every (or fuck all) burglary calls,there to busy dealing with the thousands (yep 1000s) of domestic bullshit calls that they have no choice but to go to,interestingly enough around Waitangi day theres a rise early evening when a "once was warrior" gets all fucked up and deals to his kid over the colour of its skin,forgetting he married a Pakeha,i shit you not.If you could take all the do-gooders and tree huggers in this country and make them spend a shift at the 111 center they may well walk out with different ideas on the state of the nation.

[pete376403]

Dead bolts are a waste of money when the thief can easily bash the door down, or break a window. What you really need are burglar bars like these.



They're a standard fitment on middle and upper class homes in South Africa.

Barred windows, deadlocks, alarms and guard dogs - I kinda object to turning my house into a fortress / jail.

[Usarka]

Barred windows, deadlocks, alarms and guard dogs - I kinda object to turning my house into a fortress / jail.

Me too, that's the screws job

[RDJ]

Very nicely put.

The problem with that approach is we do not get to keep our money and we still have to spend some of what's left on private security and alarms etc... then when there is a burglary we are advised that it is a low priority crime and file a claim with the insurance - in effect your advice is:
work
pay bills after Govt has taken tax to pay law enforcement
pay private security
pay alarm installation
pay alarm monitoring
go back to work harder to earn to pay for the above
leave work as house has been burgled (smash, grab, scarper say neighbours)
wait at home losing pay until forensic unit should show up (they do not)
go back to work (forensic unit never show, no followup, calls not returned)
file claim with insurance
waste hours
lose no claims bonus
pay more insurance next year
keep working to pay bills after Govt has taken tax before receive money
repeat


Burglary IMO should be an offence that recognises that we who were stolen from worked X+ hours out of our life to pay for what was stolen therefore burglar should be incarcerated for at X+cubed hours... that is probably too oldfashioned for the ex-law lecturers in Govt.

[RDJ]

Alternatively you could try:
- Join your local community watch group
- Ask your local community constable to visit and talk security
- Talk to your neighbours, get to know them
- Lock your cars when they're in the driveway
- Don't leave your garage door open
- Don't leave valuables visible through your windows if possible
- Lock your house when you're at home and not in the immediate vicinity of the external door
- Fit latches to your windows
- Fit deadbolts to your doors
- Consider fitting a burglar alarm system
- Get off your fat lazy arse and actually go and look when your hear an alarm going
- Arm yourself with the free info provided

Most people in New Zealand are either "she'll be right", or just plain lazy. Don't be that person, don't let them prey on you. The police aren't even half of the puzzle here.

Not attacking you personally but - my wife and I work during the day, so do our neighbours. How exactly does Neighbourhood Watch function while we are out working & paying the bills for us as well as the people who do not work as well as the people who are paid to stop the people who do not work robbing the people who work?


As for locking cars: they smash windows. As for locking doors: they smash ranchslider. As for turning chez nous into Colditz: no.

As for the routine "do not leave valuables in sight" - we should all hide everything out of fear? Just once I would like Forces of Justice and Law to run a campaign basd on - may I raise my voice a little - making THE PEOPLE WHO STEAL AND ASSAULT HAVING MORE TO FEAR AND THUSLY MODIFYING THEIR BEHAVIOUR, RATHER THAN THE PEOPLE WHO WORK AND PAY HAVING TO MODIFY OUR BEHAVIOUR. Not an unreasonable expectation methinks.

But I'm not expecting anything different. I'll be back at work tomorrow...

[gammaguy]

Barred windows, deadlocks, alarms and guard dogs - I kinda object to turning my house into a fortress / jail.

LOL

face it,its gonna happen sometime........

[Gremlin]

In a global scale, NZ is still a reasonably peaceful place. Now, its not exactly pleasing to try to rank NZ between the rest of the countries in the world, excusing violence, but it could be far worse.

How about nothing but murders investigated (with a low solve rate) due to lack of resources, a cop murder is almost daily, definitely not front page, more like 4-6 sidebar, and you barely know your neighbours...

South Africa was like that... I remember arriving, stunned that people didn't have fences between their houses, and couldn't comprehend it... 6 foot concrete walls, intercom systems and always being mindful of your situation was very normal to me...

[Kickaha]

South Africa was like that... I remember arriving, stunned that people didn't have fences between their houses, and couldn't comprehend it... 6 foot concrete walls, intercom systems and always being mindful of your situation was very normal to me...

One of our South African employees couldn't believe people left cars parked in the street

[SMOKEU]

Barred windows, deadlocks, alarms and guard dogs - I kinda object to turning my house into a fortress / jail.

You get used to it very quickly.

[Usarka]

What annoys me is those signs in carparks saying "thieves operate in this carpark".

So you know where they are and all you do is put up a sign????!!!??!!