Christchurch earthquakes

[neels]

Well well, the plot thickens....

I understand that there have been particular challenges with Brooklands, over the LIDAR readings, which indicate that the level of Brooklands was miscalculated a few years ago. This means some of the decisions that were made over recent years assumed Brooklands was not as low-lying as it was. It also means that the drop in the land after the earthquake was not as great as was originally thought.

Almost sounds like someone has made a monumental fuckup at some point in the past, everything since then has been based on that, and now they're not quite sure what the hell to do.....

[dangerous]

Well well, the plot thickens....



Almost sounds like someone has made a monumental fuckup at some point in the past, everything since then has been based on that, and now they're not quite sure what the hell to do.....

Whats LIDAR? and so what she is saying is Broklands is lower than thay thought hence the movment is more after the quake?

[Oakie]

Whats LIDAR? and so what she is saying is Broklands is lower than thay thought hence the movment is more after the quake?

LIDAR (Light Detection And Ranging, also LADAR) is an optical remote sensing technology that can measure the distance to, or other properties of a target by illuminating the target with light, often using pulses from a laser. (From Wiki)

[dangerous]

LIDAR (Light Detection And Ranging, also LADAR) is an optical remote sensing technology that can measure the distance to, or other properties of a target by illuminating the target with light, often using pulses from a laser. (From Wiki)

yeah or good for getting speeding tickets with... just didnt know how it can be used to note the height/depth of land.

[Grumph]

Well well, the plot thickens....



Almost sounds like someone has made a monumental fuckup at some point in the past, everything since then has been based on that, and now they're not quite sure what the hell to do.....

Funny that the original "mistake" was in the developers favour and enabled the development to proceed....

What you're hearing now is the sound of universal arse - covering as even the council runs to lawyer up.

[Winston001]

I doubt the CCC really care about being sued. The cost would be astronomical for the person suing and even if they are successful, the ratepayers carry the can. That's you Dangerous.

As I understand it, developers all over NZ have created subdivisions on low wet boggy land as well as on slippery clay slopes (Tauranga comes to mind). Council planners and engineers who go to university and study this stuff, have recommended these subdivisions not be approved. This happened in Christchurch with the Eastern suburbs which included an area named "Marshlands" for pitys sake.

However: councillors are human and elected by the locals. Presented with a subdivision close to town, should they stop people having the chance to live close to work? Especially when the developers say they have all the problems covered and dig the streets even lower so the land appears to be high.

So the councilllors ignore the bureaucrats and the red tape. Which you and I would normally think was common sense and just what councillors should do...

So 20 years or so later...we deal with the consequences.

[Winston001]

I have to tell you, I'm a bit pissed off about subdivisions in swamps. I'm a farmers son and the one thing you do not do is build or even fence in a swamp. Its basic.

Once a week I drive past a new subdivision outside Invercargill. A house has already been built there surrounded by rushes. The land was a metre under water in the 1984 Invercargill floods with jetboats rescuing people in the area. And yet 25 years later...new houses.

[Grumph]

Councillors memories don't reach further back than the last election....if that.

The only bit of advice my mother gave me worth remembering was to never buy or build on the South Brighton sandspit...it had been under water three times in her lifetime that she could remember.

The drainage board used to regularly dredge the Avon and Heathcote rivers - guess where the silt was trucked to - Bexley....
For some reason they stopped dredging about 1960 and look at the drainage problems surfacing now.

[Rashika]

peoples memories seem to be very short...
I still remember lots of floods as a kid living in invergiggle

even though the EQ was an exceptional circumstance, common sense should still prevail with low lying land, but money always seems to speak louder, especially if you are unlikely to live in the area.

[dangerous]

I have to tell you, I'm a bit pissed off about subdivisions in swamps. I'm a farmers son and the one thing you do not do is build or even fence in a swamp. Its basic.

Once a week I drive past a new subdivision outside Invercargill. A house has already been built there surrounded by rushes. The land was a metre under water in the 1984 Invercargill floods with jetboats rescuing people in the area. And yet 25 years later...new houses.

yeah well human nature is greed, ie: to make money as easy as possible, it will alwas happen case eg is the subdevision you mention in chch. so people will always be sucked in its a kiwi way of thinking to pay as little as possible forgeting you get what ya pay for.
Drainage was sorted in these areas but no one ever thought about the affects of liqudfacation letalon a quake.

On another note FARK have I had a guts full of dealing with people, I want out simple as that. Eg a woman in brighten befor the quake lived in a shitty old run down beach batch... thanks to my men she now has a compleatly referbished house, this week she complained about a very small gap in the shower linings, not quake caused, but the dicks at fletchers said we will sort that, a compleat bathroom refit later and the bitch sends me a email about the new shower rail being 5mm out of level... next week it will be something else...
This is increasingly more common mostly with women, they want new fucking houses for nothing... GREED.

[neels]

Brooklands is goneburger.

Not sure if it's a

Or a

But anyway, at least it's an answer.

[dangerous]

Brooklands is goneburger.

Not sure if it's a

Or a

But anyway, at least it's an answer.

yeah mate we know you, anna, russle shit Iv even built 2 places out there... but hey its a bloody swamp, like I said to short arse, buy the padock next to us LOL, we will have a comunil bar (man cave) on the fence line

[kerryhare]

yeah well human nature is greed, ie: to make money as easy as possible, it will alwas happen case eg is the subdevision you mention in chch. so people will always be sucked in its a kiwi way of thinking to pay as little as possible forgeting you get what ya pay for.
Drainage was sorted in these areas but no one ever thought about the affects of liqudfacation letalon a quake.

On another note FARK have I had a guts full of dealing with people, I want out simple as that. Eg a woman in brighten befor the quake lived in a shitty old run down beach batch... thanks to my men she now has a compleatly referbished house, this week she complained about a very small gap in the shower linings, not quake caused, but the dicks at fletchers said we will sort that, a compleat bathroom refit later and the bitch sends me a email about the new shower rail being 5mm out of level... next week it will be something else...
This is increasingly more common mostly with women, they want new fucking houses for nothing... GREED.

I would just love a house that dosnt move in the wind or when the other half walks to fast through it. EQC are crap to deal with, they tell you one thing one week, and then something different the next.

[lakedaemonian]

We went Green/Blue, or Blue/Green, or Turquoise a few weeks back.

Apparently we might need piles up to 6 metres deep.....but we wouldn't have a clue....as neither "full and final" assessment we've had yet has resulted in anyone even LOOKING under the house....let alone doing a proper inspection.

We figure they'll get to us somewhere around this time next election.

[neels]

Well, life in the red zone goes on for a bit longer it seems.....

Just talked to our insurance company, and apparently we can expect something from them on what our options are sometime next year.

Appears we are back of the queue for getting our roads fixed, back of the queue for land zoning, and now back of the queue with the insurance company.

Guess that puts us at the back of the queue for options on what to do from here too....

Fucking yay.