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    New Zealand's "justice system" is a bit archaic at times. Our notions about name suppression being one example. Many other countries, such as the USA, do not apply suppression to the ludicrous extent that happens here at times. The public there generally knows why somebody is standing trial and whether they are found guilty or innocent.

    There are several ways suppression orders can be breached, none of them being legal, including somebody who lives overseas posting on a New Zealand web site.

    There are many forms revenge can take, naming and shaming being but one, some of which are legal. Personally I am a huge fan of kharma.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hitcher View Post
    There are many forms revenge can take, naming and shaming being but one, some of which are legal. Personally I am a huge fan of kharma.
    Normally I would concur however in this intance Kharma = tooooo slow.

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    My lay man knowledge of this mine field is as follows.

    Trust me, I had to really lay on some self control a few years ago, when I knew the identity of an offender, and wanted nothing better than to name and shame him. The penalty for doing so was no deterrent to me personally, I was happy to do time in order to see this animal named. It was explained to me the effect my angry, selfish action could potentially have on his victims. PM me if you want details.

    Naming and shaming someone that has name suppression in order to protect their victims should NEVER be named. I know it seems like a cop out at the time, but their cards are marked and life as they knew it is over.

    What it does is protect the victims of the crime/s the *insert here any appropriate term to describe them* have committed. Years down the track these people would frankly like to forget about what happened, not have it randomly brought up again if someone "discovers" a name on google relating to a search they have made.
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    Nonono,

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mom View Post
    What it does is protect the victims of the crime/s the *insert here any appropriate term to describe them* have committed. Years down the track these people would frankly like to forget about what happened, not have it randomly brought up again if someone "discovers" a name on google relating to a search they have made.
    Yeah indeed - good point and one worth remembering.

    Refer post 9 though was just an idea I flirted with today...quite seriously flirtation but I definitely didn't get to second base.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Number One View Post
    Yeah indeed - good point and one worth remembering.

    Refer post 9 though was just an idea I flirted with today...quite seriously flirtation but I definitely didn't get to second base.
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    Nonono,

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    Quote Originally Posted by riffer View Post
    If it were me, I'd wear the $1000 fine for breaching the suppression order.

    They're hardly likely to send you to jail for three months and if they did there's 100 people here who'd scream blue bloody murder over it.

    How about we get 200 of us to donate a fiver and you go ahead and publish?
    I'm in for a $20.00

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hitcher View Post
    There are several ways suppression orders can be breached, none of them being legal, including somebody who lives overseas posting on a New Zealand web site.
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    How about an overseas website or still a no no ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mom View Post
    What it does is protect the victims of the crime/s the *insert here any appropriate term to describe them* have committed. Years down the track these people would frankly like to forget about what happened, not have it randomly brought up again if someone "discovers" a name on google relating to a search they have made.
    +1 good point.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Deano View Post
    How about an overseas website or still a no no ?
    That option would work, as long as the people posting to that site are not predominantly resident in New Zealand and therefore subject to the laws of that jurisdiction.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hitcher View Post
    That option would work, as long as the people posting to that site are not predominantly resident in New Zealand and therefore subject to the laws of that jurisdiction.
    ... or you line up a couple of proxies so it's untraceable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by riffer View Post

    Therefore the existing legislation still applies and a fine not exceeding $1000 OR a three month jail term is the penalty. And, as I said before, there isn't a judge in this court who would send you to jail if you told the whole truth.
    Non-violent offenders are automatically released after serving half of their sentence.

    I can't see that you'd get the max, and you'd be out in half the time
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    yeah....nah

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    Quote Originally Posted by Number One View Post
    yeah....nah
    Good call!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Smifffy View Post
    Good call!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Number One View Post
    Yeah it's ok I've had my vent and my nasty little daydreams about bringing holy war - I will just put my faith in the process and nail the Victim impact statement and hope justice and sanity prevail.

    Fuck it's hard though - I want to kick in a head nail his nuts to the wooden floor in the kitchen and set the house alight.
    If you feel that passionatley about the subject, have you considered the possibility that the energy could be better spent on making some kind of a positive contribution to organisations that provide assistance and support to victims of such things?
    Surely if you are outraged that children may be victims, you should address what concerns you - the children, and do something good for them, rather than adding more rage violence crime into the mix, by responding to a peripheral issue?

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