Name suppression - how can I get around this and out an offender legally?

[Number One]

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[Usarka]

Burn his fucken house down love, then blame it on me. I'll have an aliby on standby.

Rather than risk an arson sentence I'd probably go for something like spray painting his fence "pedo lives here". Warns the parents using the playground and gives them an opportunity to do the naming and shaming.

Any legal types know if this breaches name suppression laws?

[Number One]

Rather than risk an arson sentence I'd probably go for something like spray painting his fence "pedo lives here". Warns the parents using the playground and gives them an opportunity to do the naming and shaming.

Any legal types know if this breaches name suppression laws?

That had actually occured to me...but i thought a letter drop in neighbours mailboxes would avoid any need to 'vandalise or damage property'

[oneofsix]

Rather than risk an arson sentence I'd probably go for something like spray painting his fence "pedo lives here". Warns the parents using the playground and gives them an opportunity to do the naming and shaming.

+1 also a question. Does he own the place? If there is a landlord don't they become a victim if the place is burnt down.

[Number One]

The lead investigating officer has responded to me saying that he will need to seek advice on challenging the suppression and he'll get back to me.

I can just about guess what the response is going to be...

[oneofsix]

Yes - well really the banks will own it.

That's niice. Banks are only interested in money and between insurance and land value they will be happy. Seems NZ has recently developed a tradition of sanitizing murder houses with flame, perhaps an extension to this tradition is called for ... not that I would encourage illegal activity
Fence painting is still a good option as it warns others and can be employed where ever he moves to.

[Banditbandit]

That option would work, as long as the people posting to that site are not predominantly resident in New Zealand and therefore subject to the laws of that jurisdiction.

That option will only work if you trust the overseas person enough NOT to tell where they got the info from. Even telling an overseas person the name breaks the supressionorder ... and the teller can be prosecuted.

New Zealand's "justice system" is a bit archaic at times. Our notions about name suppression being one example. Many other countries, such as the USA, do not apply suppression to the ludicrous extent that happens here at times. The public there generally knows why somebody is standing trial and whether they are found guilty or innocent.

Unfortunately, most people still think either guilty or "they got off" .. few people think "innocent" .. in this case he has admitted it tho' ...

+1, there was a murder case in the UK recently - the victims landlord was questioned by the police - media splashed his name and details all over the 5 O´clock news - guilty by media. He was a bit weird looking and they made the most of it, if they hadn't found the real killer his life would have been ruined.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...r-2172089.html

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...ed-murder.html

Exactly - why name supression can be important.

This name suppression is shyte. The offender is awaiting sentence therefore he has had his chance to tell whom so ever he needs to. The judge needs their head read!

Number 1 I get an understanding of you anger but suspect now is a time for you to try to step back and change directions. I know that sounds trite but if you buy too far into the victim process this fucker will own you for life.

The reasons for name supression given here are actullay fairly commonly used. And before you all hit the roof ... it's also very common for the name supression to be lifted at sentence. And name supression on lasts until the next court appearance. If it is not renewed at the next court hearing, it is automatically lifted. I think we will see his name pretty soon ..

[Number One]

I think we will see his name pretty soon ..

I really hope you are right!

[Paul in NZ]

Oh dear god... You could get seriously worried about our species if you fill in the blanks - some acts are truely truely wrong...

Look - I'm a little to the right of the Old Testament as far as this is concernd but thats no help is it? Is there anything we an do to help you? Do you need to get away for a few days?

[oneofsix]

The reasons for name supression given here are actullay fairly commonly used.

part of the problem is its common use. He has from the time the police first come calling to tell those that need to know. I can't imagine he went to court and pleaded guilty the day of his arrest. This happens so often that one doesn't believe that there will be special circumstances in this case that has require more than a day to tell people. If it only happened in exceptional circumstances then i might believe it. Number 1 gives me the impression there aren't any special circumstances and this is just an ... (no can't insult arse holes like that).

And before you all hit the roof ... it's also very common for the name supression to be lifted at sentence. And name supression on lasts until the next court appearance. If it is not renewed at the next court hearing, it is automatically lifted. I think we will see his name pretty soon ..

We live in hope but it should have happened BEFORE now.

[Number One]

Is there anything we an do to help you? ?

An angry Lynch mob could be nice?

Do you need to get away for a few days?

There's no getting away from this unfortunately...it will be with us for life.

[Number One]

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[oneofsix]

He admitted to it from the moment the cops came knocking. He is also up for further IT related charges...I have been advised that they will also be serious and inditable ones (sp? would check can't be arsed...bigger fish to fry than fucking spelling shit correctly!)

This could be important. Isn't there a legal option where if further charges are pending name suppression is continued so as not to bias a jury if one is required. You really do need a legal eagle but they don't like to commit themselves, they prefer loopholes.

[Number One]

You really do need a legal eagle but they don't like to commit themselves, they prefer loopholes.

AND payment....no such thing as good free legal advice

[riffer]

Given that the name of the perpetrator is not the same as the name of the victim, name suppression of the perpetrator COULD be lifted IF there is no mention of any relationship.

Seems to me its just too fraught though.

But personally, I wouldn't be surprised if someone went "temporarily insane" around now...