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" The Green River Killer excelled at body disposal: choose an openly accessible area that is not heavily patrolled. The key is to kill a stranger, and have only 'one' crime scene: murder and disposal in approximately the same place. When you have secondary and tertiary crime scenes, you're just creating more places to leave evidence."First, be smart from the very beginning. Pulverize all teeth, burn off fingerprints, and disfigure the face. Forcing a DNA test to establish identity (if it ever comes to that) might introduce the legal/forensic hurdle that saves your arse down the line. An unidentifiable body can, in a pinch, be dressed in thrift store clothes and dropped in a bad part of town where the police are less likely to question it. I don't recommend that disposal method, I'm just saying an easily identifiable body is an even bigger threat than the opposite.
Assuming you have it inside a house where you can work on it a bit, the first thing you want to do is drain it of fluids. This will make it easier to cut up, and slow decomposition a little bit. The best way to do this quick and dirty is to perforate the body with a pointed knife, and then perform CPR on it. Cut the fronts of the thighs deep, diagonally, to slit the femoral arteries. Then pump the chest. The valves in the heart will still work when dead, and the spring back of the ribcage can put apply a fair amount of suction to the atria. Do this in a tub. Plug the drain, and mingle lots of bleach with the bodily fluids before unplugging the drain to empty the tub. This should help control the stench of death, which would otherwise reek from your gutter gratings. Do everything you can to control odors. Plug in an ionizer, burn candles, leave bowls of baking soda everywhere. Ventilate the room in the middle of the night, but otherwise keep it closed. Keep the body under a plastic sheet while it's in the tub.
If you want to bury, I recommend separating the body into several parts, and burying them separately. For one thing, it's easier to dig a deep enough hole for a head than for an entire body. this reduces your chances of being discovered while you are actually outside and digging the grave. That is the one thing you can't do inside the doors of your house, and represents a vulnerable moment you want to keep brief, under 2 hours. Do it between 3 and 5 am. It's also less likely for someone to call the police if their dog digs up some chunk of meat, than if they dig up an entire body. They may assume it's an animal carcass disfigured by decomposition, and leave it alone or dispose of it. It's also more likely that the dog will consume all of it before anyone knows the difference. A whole skeleton is another story. You can cut a body into 6 pieces faster than you think. It's not much different than boning a chicken, but it takes more work, a big knife, and time. A hammer will be useful for pulverizing joints or driving the knife deep where it doesn't want to go. Anyway it's wise to crush as much of the skeleton as you can along the way. It will aid in making the body less identifiable for what it is as it decomposes.
Don't return to the same site 6 times for 6 burials.You'll attract suspicion from anyone nearby, and you'll wind up placing the body parts close enough together to be found by any serious investigation. Put them in plastic bags with lots of bleach, and store in a freezer until you have enough time to bury them all.
Depending on what tools you have available, you may find that you're get really good at deconstructing the body. You might prefer to slowly sprinkle it down a drain without leaving your house. This avoids the long-term risk of discovery associated with burial, and the overwhelming supply of bacteria in a sewer accelerates decomposition, while providing a convenient cover smell.
Truly grinding down a body takes a lot more work, and you run the risk of fouling your plumbing and calling in a plumber. So don't try it unless you know how to clear bones and meat out of a drainpipe. A good food processor can be useful. But don't over-use it, or power drills or saws. They're noisy and they attract attention. And forget the kitchen sink. It's better if you actually remove one of the toilets in your house from its base, which will give you direct access to one of the largest sewer pipes that enters your house. Follow any disposals with lots of bleach and then run the water for 5 or 10 minutes on top of that. And plug that pipe when you're not using it, to prevent any sewer gasses from backing up into your house. Usually, a U-trap inside the toilet does that for you.
Forum whore
KB is truly an amazing forum!
You don't get to be an old dog without learning a few tricks.
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Hardcore Biker
I have nothing but hate for pedophiles and child molestersOriginally Posted by Edbear
KB is truly an amazing forum!
Forum whore
Not gainsaying that, only that no-one gets away with murder. As much as we'd like to do all sorts of things to certain persons, it's better to fantasise than actually carry it out.
Mind you, if you were to catch the offender in the act....
You don't get to be an old dog without learning a few tricks.
Shorai Powersports batteries are very trick!
Forum whore
I used to think the same...sometimes things just aren't as clear cut as you'd like them to be.
Your sentiments don't offend and nor are they lost on me.
Hardcore Biker
No fantasy. You don't mess with woman and children. I would be happy to do time if someone fucked with my family.Not gainsaying that, only that no-one gets away with murder. As much as we'd like to do all sorts of things to certain persons, it's better to fantasise than actually carry it out.
Mind you, if you were to catch the offender in the act....
The law is to soft.. it's not a deterrent to these fuckers.
If you really want to know what goes on in this world I can send you a link - I've just seen videos of the Mexican killings.. I'm not sure if the Muslims can top them for
SEVENFUCKINGFIFTY
If you can pay a high-price lawyer and you get an idiot jury you can get away with almost anything.
Deus ex ukulele
It's amazing what the passing of time can do. Particularly if the offending person has been separated from your life. And it's also pointless taking on blame for other people's failings. Remember that none of this is your fault.
All things that are easy to say. Good luck with the Court bizzo.
"Standing on your mother's corpse you told me that you'd wait forever." [Bryan Adams: Summer of 69]
Hardcore Biker
You think not one person has gotten away with murder?You're right. KB is truly an amazing forum with statements like that.
Forum whore
No fantasy. You don't mess with woman and children. I would be happy to do time if someone fucked with my family.
The law is to soft.. it's not a deterrent to these fuckers.
If you really want to know what goes on in this world I can send you a link - I've just seen videos of the Mexican killings.. I'm not sure if the Muslims can top them forLet me elaborate. I wasn't thinking globally and perhaps it was too much of a generalisation. What I meant was that in NZ, eventually the murderers get caught and anyone who does a revenge killing, especially, will invariably get caught causing more suffering to their families.You think not one person has gotten away with murder?
I do take your responses as read.
You don't get to be an old dog without learning a few tricks.
Shorai Powersports batteries are very trick!
Forum whore
If something were to happen to said person it wouldn't take a brain surgeon to figure out it was probably me or hubby...cops would no doubt be straight around to my house to arrest me.
In the first week when this all came out, I was offered phone numbers for gang prospects, a proposal to name and shame on an international website and from people outside NZ, I have had atleat 10 offers to have this guy severely messed up and to have his house painted and targetted.
It didn't take long for me to realise that while entertaining these thoughts made me feel powerful and vengeful etc etc any of these actions wouldn't have made me feel any better about what has happened to my baby.
We plan to work on living well and getting on with life. Best revenge - specially when his life is now so fucked. We will not be brought down by this...well not forever anyway!
Forum whore
Having just spoken to the probation officer compiling the pre-sentence report I am FUCKING LIVID.
Apparently he has said that we (the victims mum and dad) are OK with it and are OVER IT!!! WTF?! I'll give you fucking over it!
He also admitted he had taken photos...how do I get away with murder folks?!
Friday better bring a fucking long jail sentence!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Weekend cruiser
All the very best in dealing with this, I'm sure you will find an apropriate way of sorting things out.
Have you checked out the pointer I gave you?
Stay strong & don't give in to the probation officers or anybody, call them liars if you feel that way...
Forum whore
Tis hard to maintain the composure I had in the post before last. Right now I'd like to go round and do bad things to him and his house. Fuck I am livid. Probation officers aren't the problem...also HIS Name Suppression is not likely be going on for much longer apparently - too fucking right! I can't wait till some of the people who see him as a hero hear what he's done...rot you bastard
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