Have a rant...

[Flyingpony]

Whats more fun is riding up beside the car and opening the door, fuck that freaks them out

Not all cars have their doors unlocked. I know of cars which will automatically self-lock the doors once moving at more than 20km/hr and the electrics won't permit any door to be unlocked as long as it's above that speed.

[N4CR]

Not all cars have their doors unlocked. I know of cars which will automatically self-lock the doors once moving at more than 20km/hr and the electrics won't permit any door to be unlocked as long as it's above that speed.

Yeah up in northland where John is from they dont have new cars.. if they do they wont exactly have a functioning security system

I just pull the fingers at people.. I'm yet to elevate to the more interesting responses... door would be good though

[Flyingpony]

There's lots of talk about kicking doors, hitting mirrors or carrying weapons.
Have we forgotten our #1 weapon: the horn.

I use my horn to great effect when it's required. If the driver didn't see me, I make sure they hear me. Once on, it'll stay on till I'm noticed by the offending driver or they cancel their manoeuvre. It's a loud horn too, so everybody around me hears it. Instinctively even the innocent driver will move over a fraction so I often get some more breathing space. Hope the horn on my next bike is just as loud.

[vifferman]

Hope the horn on my next bike is just as loud.

No need to hope - just make it loud.
The VFR750 I used to have had a typical squeaky Japanese bike horn, so I bought another one, hooked them both up via a relay wired directly to the battery, and voila! (or viola, if you're musical) - a horn that was "OW! Dad, never ever do that again!!" loud. Almost driver-punishing loud. Certainly got their attention, and I made sure it got everyone else's attention if someone violated my space, by holding the button down until people turned to see what the miscreant was up to.

[justsomeguy]

Not all cars have their doors unlocked. I know of cars which will automatically self-lock the doors once moving at more than 20km/hr and the electrics won't permit any door to be unlocked as long as it's above that speed.

Don't have to open it - just handling it will give most people a fright.....

bout folding in mirrors - some cars have rather stiff ones....

[chickenfunkstar]

There's lots of talk about kicking doors, hitting mirrors or carrying weapons.
Have we forgotten our #1 weapon: the horn.

I use my horn to great effect when it's required. If the driver didn't see me, I make sure they hear me. Once on, it'll stay on till I'm noticed by the offending driver or they cancel their manoeuvre. It's a loud horn too, so everybody around me hears it. Instinctively even the innocent driver will move over a fraction so I often get some more breathing space. Hope the horn on my next bike is just as loud.

I can hardly ever find the damn horn when I need it.
Anyone else have this problem?
I've managed to hit the starter botton a few times in anger though (funny afterwards but not at the time).
Grrrr..

[John]

There's lots of talk about kicking doors, hitting mirrors or carrying weapons.
Have we forgotten our #1 weapon: the horn.

I use my horn to great effect when it's required. If the driver didn't see me, I make sure they hear me. Once on, it'll stay on till I'm noticed by the offending driver or they cancel their manoeuvre. It's a loud horn too, so everybody around me hears it. Instinctively even the innocent driver will move over a fraction so I often get some more breathing space. Hope the horn on my next bike is just as loud.

Horns on bikes are lame, I tried it once, No body even looked at me :|.

[Biff]

.."DRIVE/RIDE LIKE EVERYONE ELSE ON THE ROAD IS AN IDIOT AND IS TRYING TO HIT YOU ..

The oldest rule in the book for any cage or biker operative.
Defensive driving/riding - always

As for getting one over on idiot cage drivers, spare change in the jacket pocket is a good one. When provoked, and where safe to do so, overtake said offensive cage fkwit:
1. Insert hand into bike jacket.
2. Collect an amount of small denomination loose change.
3. Remove hand containing said loose change from bike jacket.
4. Throw loose change over shoulder, aimed at said offensive fkwit’s motorised vehicle.
5. Accelerate with much vigour.
6. Smile.

Works just as well with small stones kids

[justsomeguy]

The oldest rule in the book for any cage or biker operative.
Defensive driving/riding - always

As for getting one over on idiot cage drivers, spare change in the jacket pocket is a good one. When provoked, and where safe to do so, overtake said offensive cage fkwit:
1. Insert hand into bike jacket.
2. Collect an amount of small denomination loose change.
3. Remove hand containing said loose change from bike jacket.
4. Throw loose change over shoulder, aimed at said offensive fkwit’s motorised vehicle.
5. Accelerate with much vigour.
6. Smile.

Works just as well with small stones kids

Man you're a rich bugger....

Why not carry a 50 cent coin..... biggest coin ...... and use it to key the bastards window.... door will probably be too low.............

I'm still with "try opening door"......

why do i think one of us is gonna get our arse kicked one of these days.........

[DingDong]

Its stuck to my subframe...With clips....

And got Crazy Steve name on it...

Use it to.....The last time I got 3years....

Your crazy arnt you Steve... I carry a golf ball

[myvice]

Heck yeah mate.....:Punk:

By the way how did you make the dent?? A kick out to the side ???

Ok... you lift your leg till your thigh is about parallel with the ground, then you want to kick out and down while slighty leaning the bike into the kick so when you hit the target you dont push yourself over or away. If you miss... well, dont miss, not good. Try for the center of the door.
General self defence info:
If some scary, large, unhappy with you and wants to inflict pain and suffering type person is getting out of his car, you can use pretty much the same technique, just wait till he has a foot on the ground (still in the car) and aim just below the door handle. Done correctly he wont give chase, screem "AUGGHH!!! My leg! you broke my f@%king leg!" yes, but no chasing
We teach this to our students on our self defence nights, I haven't had to use this but reports are that it works very very well.
(angry young lady, good fighter tho)

[hXc]

Something happened today, well at 7:10 this morning to be pedantic, happily riding along the Great South Rd on my way to the motorway a gentleman (I wont call him a mindless troglodite as that may be seen as petty and mean, I am but dont want to come across as that) undertook me, so what? nothing new there...
But there was a car infront of me so as he had nowhere to go he just pushed me into on-coming traffic, while eating his breakfast pie.
A bigger person would have just backed off and let him go, I'm not a big person so I gave his car a size 9 dent in the drivers door and fucked off smartly for two reasons.
1: The afore-mentioned traffic.
2: lots of nutters on all sorts of strange chemicals out there and I didnt need to find out that he hasn't slept since May and his pie's cold. But heres the reason behind this, I'm not a large guy by any means, but I can 1:Run fast, and 2efend myself if need be (martial arts, but prefer option 1 cause theres less paper work).
So just a thought before you remove the mirror, kick the door, firebomb the 4x4 wank tank or tell the U.S. "Hey guys, Osama lives here!" That maybe discretion is the better part of valour.
I dont know, my act this morning probably wasn't the smartest move, and the mirror on Monday on the Southern (Bad week so far) could have used a little more of the oh well, shit happens, type thinking. Many of us dont do this sort of anti-social/self-defence call it what you will type behavior, and I know many do, the thing is the other non bike riding road users do make mistakes, and these mistakes can cost us our lives and limbs, giving the cage a rattle may just infuriate the sheep inside and not educate them that thay aren't alone on our roads and looking really is a good idea. To sumarize:
The bastard this morning had it coming and rightly or wrongly I'd do it again. However, maybe a tap on the window of the car that moved into my lane on Monday would have been a more gentle reminder that he has a window and to use it, cheaper than a new mirror. I've been riding on-road for about 15 years and don't consider myself a "newbie" any more, (Dont take offence at this if you are starting out, we where all newbie's once and we are ALL still learning) Maybe I'm gaining maturity (I hope not) Who knows? Any way, your views/comments are welcome. Lets see what hornets nest I've stirred up.

Good job for booting his car. I would have done the same. Except it would be a 10.

[Wolf]

If some scary, large, unhappy with you and wants to inflict pain and suffering type person is getting out of his car, you can use pretty much the same technique, just wait till he has a foot on the ground (still in the car) and aim just below the door handle. Done correctly he wont give chase, screem "AUGGHH!!! My leg! you broke my f@%king leg!" yes, but no chasing

I figured that one out for myself - never had to use it so far even during my "misspent youth".

While often tempted to boot the driver's door in, I've never done so. In my early days it was because I figured I'd fall off the bike in the attempt. These days it's because I am mindful that I am on a motorbike and the arsehole has nearly a ton of weapon at his disposal.

Once I blasted an inconsiderate motorist with my horn only to then discover he was a Mongrel Mob member. I then noted that he was giving chase and he tried to ram me with his car.

I was "armed" with a GT50 - not exactly an imposing bike unless your opponent is riding a step-through. Only some pretty adroit braking and manouevring saved me that day.

I am mindful that even people who are totally in the wrong may become enraged at having this pointed out to them and behave in an unpredictable fashion - they won't all go "Oops, fuck, nearly hit him, Christ I'm a dumb fuck" and learn. Some of them may decide that they are going to have a piece of that upstart bastard on the bike who dared deride their "superb" driving skills or question their "right" to do anything they like on the road.

That being said, I still use the horn (buying a car horn from the wreckers is a good way to upgrade from the pissy japper bike horns, if your bike is 12V - I found a Triumph Herald horn got noticed when mounted on my Zundapp) and I use "hand signals" - I'm just not prepared to escalate it much further than that lest the arsehole decides that his suspension can cope with a mere motorcycle and rider...

[Biff]

Man you're a rich bugger....

Not me - I use small denomiation coins, and plenty of them, that way your chances of hitting the car, and putting the shits up the driver, as they;ve just done to you increases.

why do i think one of us is gonna get our arse kicked one of these days.........

Never had my arse kicked in my life. As my father once taught me (former SAS, and was trained this way) - If you believe you wont win, talk, if talking wont work - run, as fast as you can.

[justsomeguy]

Never had my arse kicked in my life. As my father once taught me (former SAS, and was trained this way) - If you believe you wont win, talk, if talking wont work - run, as fast as you can.

Lucky you...... but one of us less fortunate and over confident monkeys may not be so lucky.....