Safety vests

[Subike]

dont wear pink
go to the link and look only at the black cross in the center of the pic for 5 seconds


http://co116w.col116.mail.live.com/m...13c128161b157a


now think about what you really see with your eyes

[pyrocam]

dont wear pink
go to the link and look only at the black cross in the center of the pic for 5 seconds


http://co116w.col116.mail.live.com/m...13c128161b157a


now think about what you really see with your eyes

have you linked us to a picture you received in your webmail?

that wont work very well

[ridenshine]

We may soon all have to use these vests as ACC are looking at these along with light colored helmets. HD sell an orange one in the U.S and I've seen a couple of people use them here but I think they still SUCK.

[swbarnett]

We may soon all have to use these vests as ACC are looking at these along with light colored helmets.

I will wear a high-vis vest or a light coloured helmet the day they outlaw black cars!

And the next day I will emigrate to a country where I'm free to run my life the way I see fit!

[pyrocam]

ACC != LTSA
What does it matter if they are looking at them, they are not the governing body for such regulations. (are they?)


not saying they are thinking of this but, would you wear a visi-vest if it meant you saved $50 a year on rego?

[swbarnett]

not saying they are thinking of this but, would you wear a visi-vest if it meant you saved $50 a year on rego?

Definately not!

And I wouldn't pay the extra $50 either!

What I wear while riding is a personal decision and nobody (even my wife and especially the government) has any right to enforce a decision upon me. This includes the helmet law which I would remove in a heartbeat given the chance. (I would wear one regardless)

Law or no law I will wear what I want to wear - nothing more and nothing less.

[davereid]

When we drive, our conscious brain moves on, leaving a primitive part of the brain in charge. We actually drive by instinct, with the primitive brain, only passing on data that it has judged to be significant to the conscious mind.

When we come to an intersection, if the light is red, we stop wihout really being aware of it. Same if its green. Only if it turns amber does the conscious brain have to make decisions, and get involved.

Same with right-of-way situations. The primitive brain already knows the three reactions - go, stop, decision required.

The brain is looking for a threat, once it was lions and enemies, now it is other vehicles.

I think that the motorcycle, sometimes doesnt cross the threshold to become a threat. The primitive brain discards the data, and the motorist proceeds, violating the bikers right of way, even though he looked.

Its just that he was looking for lions or enemies, and the brain saw neither.

Hi vis vests work, because we see a flash of colour that we cant instantly process, so the conscious brain gets asked "whats that ?"

Once we have hi-vis gear everywhere, on every biker, cyclist, cop, road worker, its my prediction that the effectiveness of them will drop.

They will become just another neon light on the strip, obvious to all yet completely un-noticed by most.

[ridenshine]

[QUOTE=pyrocam;1129571819]ACC != LTSA
What does it matter if they are looking at them, they are not the governing body for such regulations. (are they?)


Maybe not but if they tell our dictators thats whats needed then it will be done.
No I don't wear a vest or want to but then back in the day I thought I should be the one to say if I'd wear a helmet too.

[CrAzYMoFo]

When we drive, our conscious brain moves on, leaving a primitive part of the brain in charge. We actually drive by instinct, with the primitive brain, only passing on data that it has judged to be significant to the conscious mind.

When we come to an intersection, if the light is red, we stop wihout really being aware of it. Same if its green. Only if it turns amber does the conscious brain have to make decisions, and get involved.

Same with right-of-way situations. The primitive brain already knows the three reactions - go, stop, decision required.

The brain is looking for a threat, once it was lions and enemies, now it is other vehicles.

I think that the motorcycle, sometimes doesnt cross the threshold to become a threat. The primitive brain discards the data, and the motorist proceeds, violating the bikers right of way, even though he looked.

Its just that he was looking for lions or enemies, and the brain saw neither.

Hi vis vests work, because we see a flash of colour that we cant instantly process, so the conscious brain gets asked "whats that ?"

Once we have hi-vis gear everywhere, on every biker, cyclist, cop, road worker, its my prediction that the effectiveness of them will drop.

They will become just another neon light on the strip, obvious to all yet completely un-noticed by most.

this is completely correct..... almost

the hi vis vests still do not make people stop to think. If they make people think at all most of the time its half way through the turn when they are Half way over you and your bike and feel the bump

what alot of people do see as a threat and take notice of are the gang members on there big choopers/crusers cause people see them as a threat
they prob have the least problems on the road those guys lol other than the cops stopping them every chance they get

[pyrocam]

this is completely correct..... almost

the hi vis vests still do not make people stop to think. If they make people think at all most of the time its half way through the turn when they are Half way over you and your bike and feel the bump

what alot of people do see as a threat and take notice of are the gang members on there big choopers/crusers cause people see them as a threat
they prob have the least problems on the road those guys lol other than the cops stopping them every chance they get

would you wear leather tassels if it meant you saved $50 a year on rego?

[BikerDazz]

would you wear leather tassels if it meant you saved $50 a year on rego?

what a crackup

ah, you couldn't pay me to wear a gay hi-viz vest or homo-erotic leather tassles.

[LBD]

what a crackup

ah, you couldn't pay me to wear a gay hi-viz vest or homo-erotic leather tassles.

I wear a high Viz vest and I am not gay....wanna step out side sonny?

28 accident free years of some pretty steady riding indicates I must be doing something right. Hows your accident / near miss record looking?

[BikerDazz]

I wear a high Viz vest and I am not gay....wanna step out side sonny?

28 accident free years of some pretty steady riding indicates I must be doing something right. Hows your accident / near miss record looking?

no disrespect meant sunshine and given your locale might be a bit hard to 'step out,' tough guy.

I told my wife that I'd be all hi-viz when I got a bike but when it came down to buying gears I foudn that I couldn't go past all black.

I've been driving or riding for 26 years and haven't crashed anything, touch wood, in about the last 20.

All entitled to our opinions

[swbarnett]

All entitled to our opinions

Very true. It's when other's opinions that differ strongly from my own become law that I start to object.

[LBD]

no disrespect meant sunshine and given your locale might be a bit hard to 'step out,' tough guy.

I told my wife that I'd be all hi-viz when I got a bike but when it came down to buying gears I foudn that I couldn't go past all black.

I've been driving or riding for 26 years and haven't crashed anything, touch wood, in about the last 20.

All entitled to our opinions

Was a metaphorical "step out side" And it is a bit cool to step out side....over here.

So there is nothing conclusive to be drawn from our respective riding records....and I have only been using a vest for s short time....Would be interesing to get some accurate data....