Results 1 to 10 of 10

Thread: Chain links?

  1. #1
    Join Date
    17th July 2005 - 22:28
    Bike
    Dougcati, Geoff and Suzi
    Location
    Banjo town
    Posts
    10,162

    Chain links?

    The ZZR400 is getting some new sprockets, 16t/48t compared to the standard high revving 14t/48t, am I going to need a longer chain? I'll be buying a new chain and one would only assume the factory specified 112 link chain will not suffice.
    How the hell do I work this out without trial and error?
    Quote Originally Posted by Paul in NZ View Post
    Ha...Thats true but life is full horrible choices sometimes Merv. Then sometimes just plain stuff happens... and then some more stuff happens.....




    Alloy, stainless and Ti polishing.
    Bling your bike out!
    PM me

  2. #2
    Join Date
    25th March 2004 - 17:22
    Bike
    RZ496/Street 765RS/GasGas/ etc etc
    Location
    Wellington. . ok the hutt
    Posts
    21,192
    Blog Entries
    2
    you don't. You buy 120 links & you need a chain tool to fit it anyway so cut to size. Fit a rivet link with said tool.
    Don't you look at my accountant.
    He's the only one I've got.

  3. #3
    Join Date
    1st September 2007 - 21:01
    Bike
    1993 Yamaha FJ 1200
    Location
    Paradise
    Posts
    14,125
    Blog Entries
    2
    Will the 2 extra teeth on the front sprocket make that much difference (as far as chain length goes) ... ???

    I can't imagine at standard chain/sprockets setting ... the chain adjusters are fully in ....
    When life throws you a curve ... Lean into it ...

  4. #4
    Join Date
    25th March 2004 - 17:22
    Bike
    RZ496/Street 765RS/GasGas/ etc etc
    Location
    Wellington. . ok the hutt
    Posts
    21,192
    Blog Entries
    2
    wait a minute! Sorry what???

    you are going up 2 teeth on the front?!!

    that is like 6 teeth down on the rear & will make it a total slug. it won't accelerate & every gear change will be a million revs apart. Std will usually be best, if anything gear it down for better accel, but that has some issues.
    Don't you look at my accountant.
    He's the only one I've got.

  5. #5
    Join Date
    1st September 2007 - 21:01
    Bike
    1993 Yamaha FJ 1200
    Location
    Paradise
    Posts
    14,125
    Blog Entries
    2
    Quote Originally Posted by F5 Dave View Post
    wait a minute! Sorry what???

    you are going up 2 teeth on the front?!!

    that is like 6 teeth down on the rear & will make it a total slug. it won't accelerate & every gear change will be a million revs apart. Std will usually be best, if anything gear it down for better accel, but that has some issues.
    My understanding was 1 tooth up in the front was 7 down in the back (sprockets) ... ???

    I would have tried 5 or 6 teeth less on the back sprocket ... FIRST ...
    When life throws you a curve ... Lean into it ...

  6. #6
    Join Date
    25th April 2009 - 17:38
    Bike
    RC36, RC31, KR-E, CR125
    Location
    Manawatu
    Posts
    7,364
    doing about 6000rpm to do 100 isn't ideal though, this will knock it back to around 4500, would wanna look at a dyno chart to have a better idea how much you'll difference you'll feel between shift points.

    If only you could reverse the gears in the box for 6th, 26-24 to 24-26 would give it some more legs!
    "A shark on whiskey is mighty risky, but a shark on beer is a beer engineer" - Tad Ghostal

  7. #7
    Join Date
    24th July 2006 - 11:53
    Bike
    KTM 1290 SAR
    Location
    Wgtn
    Posts
    5,541
    Beats me how you lot survive past breakfast, it really does.

    http://www.gearingcommander.com/
    Go soothingly on the grease mud, as there lurks the skid demon

  8. #8
    Join Date
    25th April 2009 - 17:38
    Bike
    RC36, RC31, KR-E, CR125
    Location
    Manawatu
    Posts
    7,364
    Quote Originally Posted by Ocean1 View Post
    Beats me how you lot survive past breakfast, it really does.

    http://www.gearingcommander.com/
    where do you think I went to look up the rpm and gear data they reckon it's a 49 on the rear stock though.
    "A shark on whiskey is mighty risky, but a shark on beer is a beer engineer" - Tad Ghostal

  9. #9
    Join Date
    17th July 2005 - 22:28
    Bike
    Dougcati, Geoff and Suzi
    Location
    Banjo town
    Posts
    10,162
    Quote Originally Posted by F5 Dave View Post
    wait a minute! Sorry what???

    you are going up 2 teeth on the front?!!

    that is like 6 teeth down on the rear & will make it a total slug. it won't accelerate & every gear change will be a million revs apart. Std will usually be best, if anything gear it down for better accel, but that has some issues.
    It's what was available at the right price, it's a ZZR, it's not going to be ridden quick and me, being me, will probably sell it instantly anyway.

    Quote Originally Posted by F5 Dave View Post
    you don't. You buy 120 links & you need a chain tool to fit it anyway so cut to size. Fit a rivet link with said tool.
    I can't beleive I didn't realise that.... That's what I did last time.
    Quote Originally Posted by bogan View Post
    doing about 6000rpm to do 100 isn't ideal though, this will knock it back to around 4500, would wanna look at a dyno chart to have a better idea how much you'll difference you'll feel between shift points.

    If only you could reverse the gears in the box for 6th, 26-24 to 24-26 would give it some more legs!
    The gearing commander specs are out by a bit, it will be doing 5500rpm at 100k, the same as the CBeige, compared to the normal 7200 or so ridiculous revs.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ocean1 View Post
    Beats me how you lot survive past breakfast, it really does.

    http://www.gearingcommander.com/
    The specs are out according to the Kawasaki owners manual, near enough though.

    Quote Originally Posted by bogan View Post
    where do you think I went to look up the rpm and gear data they reckon it's a 49 on the rear stock though.
    They lie!!!!!! They also have some incorrect gear ratios on the CBeige too.
    Quote Originally Posted by Paul in NZ View Post
    Ha...Thats true but life is full horrible choices sometimes Merv. Then sometimes just plain stuff happens... and then some more stuff happens.....




    Alloy, stainless and Ti polishing.
    Bling your bike out!
    PM me

  10. #10
    Join Date
    25th March 2004 - 17:22
    Bike
    RZ496/Street 765RS/GasGas/ etc etc
    Location
    Wellington. . ok the hutt
    Posts
    21,192
    Blog Entries
    2
    Quote Originally Posted by Ocean1 View Post
    Beats me how you lot survive past breakfast, it really does.

    http://www.gearingcommander.com/
    Pocket calculator would suffice, 1:3 is a rule of thumb & in this case 18/54 is the same ratio as 16/48. (std vs +2 on frt & +6 on rear). But the proposed case is a hella shift.

    Try it, lets us know how it goes
    Don't you look at my accountant.
    He's the only one I've got.

Thread Information

Users Browsing this Thread

There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •