Jade Stadium or housing?

**Maha** · 9th March 2011, 17:43

Originally Posted by JimO

i have heard that the rates Fletchers were paying were pretty low like $35 a hr, not enough to run a business

Nice Salary though.

**JimO** · 9th March 2011, 17:57

Originally Posted by Maha

Nice Salary though.

out of that $35 you pay acc levvy, tax, holiday/stat day pay and run a work vehicle if they want tradesmen to go to to chch it has to be worth it financially. I was talking to a builder yesterday who worked out he would need $70 a hr per man to take his guys to chch as he would have to accommodate and feed them, the only people getting rich there will be fletchers

**Mom** · 9th March 2011, 18:12

Reading between the lines I believe the stadium is not able to be reinstated in time for the RWC. The talk of cruise ships being used as accomodation is galant and wonderful but not part of package holiday costs.

I think that the announcement that CHCH wont be hosting any RWC gasmes is simply being delayed until moral ahs improved a bit down there and/or they have worked out a plan B.

W.H.O. guidelines state one of the 3 MUST HAVES for life is shelter. What do you reckon the chances are of a sporting stadium taking precedence over housing for the displaced in CHCH. My vote...

None.

**Oakie** · 9th March 2011, 19:27

You could turn AMI Stadium into a camping ground for the displaced.

**Grumph** · 9th March 2011, 19:33

Originally Posted by JimO

out of that $35 you pay acc levvy, tax, holiday/stat day pay and run a work vehicle if they want tradesmen to go to to chch it has to be worth it financially. I was talking to a builder yesterday who worked out he would need $70 a hr per man to take his guys to chch as he would have to accommodate and feed them, the only people getting rich there will be fletchers

true...but remember this only applies to the Fletchers administered work being done for the EQC. New builds - and there will be plenty of them - will be done for the Insurance companies and will be done at current top rates...
There's still plenty of money to be made here but the risk for those of us whose damage is assessed at under the 100K ceiling is that there won't be enough builders willing to work for Fletchers rates. We'd finally had a Fletchers builder come to price it up just prior to the last quake - I'm not expecting any progress till next Summer now, if then...
Oh, and housing over Stadium, every time.

**AllanB** · 9th March 2011, 21:58

Look at it this way, there were plenty of us hit bad in September 2010 - 6 months ago. Many have still not had settlement from EQC little lone any repairs, hell I had only had my insurance companies chaps around the week before this Tuesday disaster - he'll need to come back now as it has got a lot worse. Found out today from a 12 year old friend of my daughters that her mum did not like her at our house in case it collapsed in a aftershock! Suppose it does look a bit beaten up and I understand her feelings as a parent.

Thousands have been living with this shit for 6 months already. Literally - I know of streets that pre Tuesday still had portaloos and one that was basically using the streets main line as a septic tank - it was being pumped out by a truck every week.

And they want to spend millions ensuring a rugby game comes here ..............

Visiting fans can stay in tents in the park as I'd rather see the cities displaced in those cruise ships.

And Mr Keys Friday off - nice idea but buggered if I am going to stand in Hagley Park with tens of thousands of others. Even a mild aftershock could cause a human stampede that will cause more deaths.

How come nobody ever interviews me on TV? I might need to be on the late night news I think!

And the Moon Man ............ ah fark - don't get me started.

**Shadows** · 9th March 2011, 22:43

Surely building houses and repairing a stadium would require different skills and resources, and therefore different cunts would be undertaking the work - so I can't see any reason why both couldn't be done concurrently.
Therefore I voted "don't care", but not because I don't actually care. For the record I couldn't give a shit about thugby.

**Winston001** · 10th March 2011, 03:34

Originally Posted by JimO

i have heard that the rates Fletchers were paying were pretty low like $35 a hr, not enough to run a business

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You raise a good point. Right now there is a lot of noise about rents being jacked up, shops raising prices, and tradesmen expecting to make a killing.

Up against that are the EQC accessors and insurance accessors - none of whom are going to be approving inflated quotes for repair work. So what will happen is parts of the process will fall into arguments and refusals between stubborn people while families wait for repair work to get started.

This delay has happened already from the September quake. EQC and insurance companies are well aware they can be ripped off, so they will pay some straight claims (good public relations) and dig their heels in on many many others.

Fletcher Building as a lead construction manager should be able to cut through some of the arguments but I note they expect their profit to fall because of the quake.

Leaving that aside, Dunedin has a magnificent new covered empty stadium. Funny old world innit. It's an ill wind which blows nobody any good...

**FJRider** · 10th March 2011, 05:28

Originally Posted by AllanB

Sick of hearing about the RWC and Christchurch. My opinion is that they can piss off I don't want it here, really it is totally insignificant for the city at the moment and who in their right mind would want to come here and sit in a stadium with 40,000 people! Bloody thing might sink!

The IRB won't have a bean of it in CHCH - their insurance guys will not be interested.

Sitting in an already earthquake damaged stadium ... in an earthquake prone area ... with 40,000 people ... may not be the preferred option of enough rugby fans anyway.

**Berries** · 10th March 2011, 06:48

Originally Posted by JimO

dunedin has a spare stadium

LMFAO.

Good example of fucked up priorities though.

**Maha** · 10th March 2011, 07:01

My prediction is that any and all RWC games that were to be played in christchurch will now not happen.
Lets not kid ourselves here..The stadium will not be ready to house 40,000 + people.
Local Resturants and Bars will struggle to open.
The accomodation industry has taken a massive hit.

If this was anywhere else in the world, and I had tickets to games in a city where it had been smashed by an earthquake, I would not attend any games in that city 5-6 months out.
Its going to take years, not months for any sense of normallity to resume.
That is the reality.

**Swoop** · 10th March 2011, 10:23

Originally Posted by Maha

Local Resturants and Bars will struggle to open.

As SWMBO points out (Chch girl), tents could be erected in Hagley park and a German "beerfest" approach taken. Cantab's are proud rugby supporters.

Auckland is attempting something "on the cheap" for the Princess Wharf site...

**Maha** · 10th March 2011, 11:13

Originally Posted by Swoop

As SWMBO points out (Chch girl), tents could be erected in Hagley park and a German "beerfest" approach taken. Cantab's are proud rugby supporters.

Auckland is attempting something "on the cheap" for the Princess Wharf site...

Sure, but where are they all going to sleep? Ultimately it will not be up to the rugby supporters. The whole infrastructure of Christchurch will not cope with the potential thousands of extras expected. Its been serverly damaged. There so much more to this arguement than, we love our rugby.
I really hope there can be a way found for the games to still be held in Chrischurch, just cant see it at the moment.