Boycott Mobil and BP

[bogan]

alternate theory (doesn't bother donning flame suit cos petrol is to expensive to be used for flaming!) oil companies are exercising economic responsibility, the oil fields are running out, if the price is cheap nobody will bother trying to come up with an alternative. any alternative is likely to require decades to become mainstream, so a price hike and motivation to change our fuel dependency now, is a good thing.

So your boycott should instead change to investment, just give all your money to anybody even remotely associated with alternate fuels Also, for the love of god will you peasants stop breeding, the resources drain across the board is unsustainable

[steve_t]

BP also supply pac&save.

Who else supplies 98?

Mobil Synergy 8000, Gull E10 98

[steve_t]

A good start would be to remove GST from the portion of the fuel price that is tax. Tax on tax is bullshit

[Hitcher]

Yet again another example of a Facebook inspired, poorly thought out, futile waste of time built to inspire those only capable of communicating in emoticons or ticking "like" icons.

[steve_t]

Yet again another example of a Facebook inspired, poorly thought out, futile waste of time built to inspire those only capable of communicating in emoticons or ticking "like" icons.

"Like"

[Indiana_Jones]

Yet again another example of a Facebook inspired, poorly thought out, futile waste of time built to inspire those only capable of communicating in emoticons or ticking "like" icons.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slacktivism

Also I go to Shell 95% of the time, purely for the fact they don't make me prepay at fucking 2:15pm in the afternoon unlike the local Mobils and BPs that treat every customer as a kid rapist until they pay...

-Indy

[MIXONE]

Personally I find Mobil and Gull's fuel makes the bike run funny, maybe it's in my head, probably is. Either way the most convenient petrol station for me is a Shell anyway.

Not in your head at all.Both have a small percentage of ethonol? which tends to lean the mixture.Most modern bikes have computers that automatically adjust to the variances in fuels.

[Blackshear]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slacktivism

Also I go to Shell 95% of the time, purely for the fact they don't make me prepay at fucking 2:15pm in the afternoon unlike the local Mobils and BPs that treat every customer as a kid rapist until they pay...

-Indy

Never tried Gull due to 1990 bike and ethalol, had mobil twice - to ensure it wasn't just that days weather - and made bike run shitty.

????
Still use BP.

[steve_t]

Not in your head at all.Both have a small percentage of ethonol? which tends to lean the mixture.Most modern bikes have computers that automatically adjust to the variances in fuels.

Which modern bikes have knock or O2 sensors that can run closed loop and adjust timing/fuel?

I'm pretty sure petrol can only have up to 2% ethanol before they have to call it an ethanol blend. Gull has 10% ethanol blends. Ethanol has a RON of about 109 but a lower calorific value so a tank of E10 won't get you quite as far

[Matt Bleck]

...oh but the pies at BP Express are so good!!!

[JATZ]

The only petrol station I have ever seen get pulled down for lack of use was the BP in Rotorua, but then again, the owners skipped town with 10 million dollars.

I've seen 3 get shut down here in Mot

And I will ceratainly not be buying fuel at BP/Mobil unless I have no other option, the fact it's a 100k round trip to get to either may have a bearing on it too

[onearmedbandit]

Getting the Gummint to cut the tax on fuel would make a much bigger difference.

Considering the country is running in deficit (last reports were we were borrowing $250 million per week), how is this achievable without increasing tax elsewhere?

[scracha]

Had this argument with a daftie at the weekend. Boycotting BP is a poorly thought out argument, the only people that would suffer are the forecourt owners and their workers.

BP don't, give a flying fuck if you boycott their petrol stations because there are plenty of other countries who'll gladly buy their fuel. All you're doing is limiting your choice and ultimately increasing the price you pay.

For example,

Say 14 sellers can supply an identical product to 10 buyers, it's a buyers market. The buyer can haggle the price down and all the sellers lower their price to get the sale. This is why oil prices were low in the 70's and 80's.

The the same 14 sellers can supply the identical product, but there's now 14 buyers. There's little room to haggle but there's also little room to gouge the price. This was why oil prices rose steadily in the 90's.

Then the number of buyers keeps increasing. There's now 15 buyers. The buyers start bidding against each other as THEY NEED this product. 1 of the buyers will be disappointed. Straight away, all the sellers can sell their product at a MUCH HIGHER PRICE. This is why oil prices shot up in the naughts.

Then the product gets harder to find. There's only 13 sellers, but now there's 16 buyers. Some of the buyers get hostile with each other as well as the sellers. The price of the product goes ballistic. This is akin to the situation we are at the moment and it'll only get worse.

Why fuel will rise exponentially is economics 101. Consumption of it will keep rising and it'll get harder and harder to find and extract.

Petrol is a commodity in short supply so it's a SELLER's market. So boycott BP if you want to be a fuckin iditiot.

[BMWST?]

Ha ha! I did think that too esp as this is the last line which I left out of the copying!

I KNOW THAT I WILL BUY FROM SHELL FROM NOW ON AS THE OUTLETS ARE NZ OWNED



Ultimately it wouldn't matter who got boycotted to achieve the end result, although there is obviously a downside and that is the owners of the Mobil and BP outlets missing out on income.

and the students and part timers who work there.

[SMOKEU]

I won't buy petrol from BP or Mobil then, but I can still buy my diesel from there, right?