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    Kiwi drivers slowing down?

    Don't think I'm getting slower since I got a bike...

    Keen for an energy related speed limit instead of reactionary time based? Lol
    100km/h Car (1400kg): 1080241 Joules of Energy
    Motorcycle + Rider (270kg) to get to 1080241 Joules = 228km/h. I'd be happy with that
    Would mean cyclists (80kg) would be able to go 418km/h if they so wished.

    From Stuff:
    The average Kiwi driver is slowly taking the foot off the pedal, with road speeds dropping to an all-time low.
    Figures issued by the Transport Ministry show that the mean speed on the open road last year was 96.2kmh, the lowest since the survey began in 1995.
    Speeds also reached an all-time low in urban areas, although at 52kmh, the mean speed was still above the 50kmh speed limit.
    The low figures follow more than a decade of Kiwis steadily slowing down on the roads.

    In 1996 Kiwis were travelling at 102.3kmh on the open road, and 56.5kmh in towns.
    New Zealand Transport Agency spokesman Andy Knackstedt said there had been a noticeable shift in attitudes to road safety over the years.
    It was largely due to an increase in targeted advertising and enforcement, which the New Zealand Transport Agency and police had been collaborating on, he said.
    "There's no doubt that the advertising and enforcement campaign together has certainly helped to change people's attitudes and behaviour around speed and alcohol."

    Mounting fuel prices would have played a role, he said.
    "A lot of people are aware ... you use less fuel if you drive at a steady speed and you drive at a slower speed."
    But although speeds are falling, drivers are still travelling over the speed limit in towns.
    Fifteen per cent of drivers were clocked travelling at more than 57kmh in urban areas, while 58 per cent of drivers were over the speed limit.
    Last year 137 people were killed and 2631 people were injured in speed-related crashes.

    There were 830 crashes – about 16 a week – where a driver was speeding in urban areas and someone was injured or killed.
    Mr Knackstedt said young men were often the worst offenders, which was why much of the advertising targeted that demographic.
    "They tend to underestimate the dangers of travelling a little bit faster than the speed limit in 50kmh areas.
    "They are confident with their driving ability and are comfortable that nothing untoward will happen. They are not consciously speeding – they are simply driving at speeds that are habitually comfortable."
    Drivers often perceived the risk of crashing in urban areas as low, so would push the limits, so advertising campaigns aimed to increase awareness of the hazards.

    2010 MEAN SPEEDS

    Open roads (limit 100kmh)
    Highest: Hawke's Bay, 100.3kmh
    Lowest: Auckland, 93.8kmh
    Wellington: 94.4kmh
    Canterbury: 98.3kmh
    Urban roads (limit 50kmh)
    Highest: Gisborne, 55.3kmh
    Lowest: Taranaki, 48.8kmh
    Wellington: 49.1kmh
    Auckland: 54.1kmh
    Canterbury: 52.3kmh
    Source: Transport Ministry 2010 Speed Survey

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    Yup, can see that its likely. I know ive slowed down considerably in the last yhree years. Where as i would cruise at around 120-130 im now keeping it under 110. Case in point was my last two trips to hampton downs and taupo last week. Didnt exceed 110 ( accept for one overtaking manoever just this side of cambridge).

    In my case its not the education though, its plain and simple the enforcement. I simply cant afford to lose license through demerits so no choice but to slow down. Ive clearly gone soft too cos frankly it doesnt actually bother me anymore either

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    Quote Originally Posted by Luckylegs View Post
    Yup, can see that its likely. I know ive slowed down considerably in the last yhree years. Where as i would cruise at around 120-130 im now keeping it under 110. Case in point was my last two trips to hampton downs and taupo last week. Didnt exceed 110 ( accept for one overtaking manoever just this side of cambridge).

    In my case its not the education though, its plain and simple the enforcement. I simply cant afford to lose license through demerits so no choice but to slow down. Ive clearly gone soft too cos frankly it doesnt actually bother me anymore either
    I'm still a teenage male, so I guess I have to live up to the stereotype or it just wouldn't be right now would it.

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    I'm lucky to crack 90km/hr if I'm hypermiling.

    Personally, I support a lower speed limit but I'm now nearly old

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    Yes. I've noticed that the general speeds on the roads are slower, and there are fewer high-speed hoons.

    I tend to sit under 110 klicks now (with 55 demerit points already and only got my licence back in September I'm feeling the pressure) and fewer cars or bikes pass me ... ('course if they do, then it's all on)

    It feels nicer ... less stress wondering what dickhead cage drivers are going to at speed .. etc etc ...

    I wonder what effect this will have on the road toll? It's got to be dropping ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by superman View Post
    The average Kiwi driver is slowly taking the foot off the pedal, with road speeds dropping to an all-time low.
    Figures issued by the Transport Ministry show that the mean speed on the open road last year was 96.2kmh, the lowest since the survey began in 1995.
    Speeds also reached an all-time low in urban areas.
    Only because our road conditions are at an all time low!!
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    In the last 15 years or so I'd say the average motorway speed has dropped noticeably. It wasn't unheard of for the fast lane to be doing 110-115 , a line of cars all following along.

    With the enforcement, increased congestion blah blah speeds have definitely slowed down. I feel like more of a hoon doing 115 now, than I used to doing 130 ish (my crusing speeds when traffic allows).

    About 5 years ago I went to the Gold Coast for a holiday, rented a car, odd experience with fast lanes moving at 120 ish between Brisbane and the coast, and plenty of cars going a little faster than that (and everyone moving over to let them through). Not sure if it's like that now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stirts View Post
    Only because our road conditions are at an all time low!!
    Are they though? With the likes of the waikato expressway replacing the crap that was the drive around mercer/meremere/huntly (as an example) id say that may not be the case.

    This purely from a car prespective of course

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    Quote Originally Posted by Luckylegs View Post
    Are they though? With the likes of the waikato expressway replacing the crap that was the drive around mercer/meremere/huntly (as an example) id say that may not be the case.

    This purely from a car prespective of course
    It's not so much the replacements/upgrades of roading I am referring to. It's the repairs/maintenance works on some existing roads .... I got a D in sewing so I know what shit patchwork looks like.
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    I drive my car slower because of the ever rising cost of running a vehicle.

    140km round trip to work 6 days in a row is worthy of more fuel-efficient driving practices.

    As for how the bike gets ridden.... lets just say it is a wee bit more "spirited".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stirts View Post
    It's not so much the replacements/upgrades of roading I am referring to. It's the repairs/maintenance works on some existing roads .... I got a D in sewing so I know what shit patchwork looks like.
    Haha, id actually qualified my statement with something to the effect of what you refer but it got wordy and my posting this morning is from an iphone so its a pain so removed it.

    I dont recall getting a mark but they did make everyone in 1st form take sewing and i remember making a sweatshirt and a foam filled rugby ball. Its fair to say i dont recall wearing the sweatshirt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by superman View Post
    2010 MEAN SPEEDS

    Open roads (limit 100kmh)
    Highest: Hawke's Bay, 100.3kmh
    Lowest: Auckland, 93.8kmh
    Wellington: 94.4kmh
    Canterbury: 98.3kmh
    Urban roads (limit 50kmh)
    Highest: Gisborne, 55.3kmh
    Lowest: Taranaki, 48.8kmh
    Wellington: 49.1kmh
    Auckland: 54.1kmh
    Canterbury: 52.3kmh
    Source: Transport Ministry 2010 Speed Survey
    Here is a task for you, take a collection of those average speeds through time and tell me what your correlation is with speed related accidents, for the same period.

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    Auckland and wellington both have comparatively low open road speeds, this is quite likely due to the fact that you are lucky to be able to cruise along at 110kmh on the motorway in these areas. Auckland especially (and the north shore m'way is the worst!).
    -am assuming they include motorways otheriwse theres hardly many 'open roads' in the auckland region to get figures from.

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    I'm with Toaster (post #10).
    Actual cost of petrol getting to make a dent in the budget and the things that the rise in fuel cost effects like food are also getting slightly more expensive. It may not be a lot but I'm not getting paid any more so it has to come from somewhere.
    However I still like a spirited ride on the bike.
    I may be slow at getting things but..... no wait I'm just slow.

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    Have to question their logic. I expected they would calm lower road toll due to their enforcement instead of less trips but this lower speed thing - really?
    More likely we are worried about the cost than safety or stuck behind some moron that believes the propaganda due to NZ's poor roads.

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