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    Quote Originally Posted by Dom View Post
    A well built 2 stroke in a 125GP chassis will definitely smoke any 4 stroke offering
    How many 125GP rolling frames are for sale and how much do they sell for?
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    If change is required then Aussie buckets Motolite gets my vote! XR200's and motorcrosser 80's

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    Quote Originally Posted by kel View Post
    If change is required then Aussie buckets Motolite gets my vote! XR200's and motorcrosser 80's
    That won't be 'Buckets' anymore.

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    Negative to all three.

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    I dont want to rock the boat so will wait and see what MNZ come back with

    and team E.S.E might just have to start looking for 40 h/p if the rulez do change
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    Quote Originally Posted by jasonu View Post
    That won't be 'Buckets' anymore.
    Sure it will, Aussie buckets.
    Imagine it, a fully worked XR200 in an RS125 chassis, you have to admit that would be fun, plus there would be spares and performance parts to keep the things going for years to come. The time of buckets actually being built out of buckets and bits/bobs, what ever it was, has passed. Lets embrace the future and as my man John would say close the gap with Australia!

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    Quote Originally Posted by kel View Post
    close the gap with Australia!
    Why bother when the current formula works well and we don't have trans Tasman competition

    The thread was about voting and discussion on some proposed rule changes to do with some stinky two strokes not fucking a class entirely with some unneeded four stroke rules
    "If you can make black marks on a straight from the time you turn out of a corner until the braking point of the next turn, then you have enough power."


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    Leave the rules alone.

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    (I have an MB100 and still think the rules are fine.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kickaha View Post
    The thread was about voting and discussion on some proposed rule changes to do with some stinky two strokes not fucking a class entirely with some unneeded four stroke rules
    Obviously an FXR owner

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    Quote Originally Posted by kel View Post
    Obviously an FXR owner
    Wash your mouth out with battery acid, I wouldn't own one of those unless you paid me, I am quite happy to ride and crash other peoples though
    "If you can make black marks on a straight from the time you turn out of a corner until the braking point of the next turn, then you have enough power."


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    Quote Originally Posted by kel View Post
    .......The time of buckets actually being built out of buckets and bits/bobs, what ever it was, has passed........
    Not so, check the ESE thread......

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    Oh well. Looking at the voting I guess I'll forget this then.

    I need deeper pockets (ok, I need pockets) and to modify the 125 just to stay level with a stock FXR. RS125 chassis are so far out of reach they may as well not exist. The idea was to level the START point of the engines - not the END point. That's for the deep pockets and idle hands to do.

    I don't understand the thinking behind several posts. I feel people are looking at how it will affect them rather than the class.

    Lesson learnt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skunk View Post
    Oh well. Looking at the voting I guess I'll forget this then.

    I need deeper pockets (ok, I need pockets) and to modify the 125 just to stay level with a stock FXR. RS125 chassis are so far out of reach they may as well not exist. The idea was to level the START point of the engines - not the END point. That's for the deep pockets and idle hands to do.

    I don't understand the thinking behind several posts. I feel people are looking at how it will affect them rather than the class.

    Lesson learnt.
    Not necessarily deep pockets.
    You can gain a lot for not much $'s with some careful porting. Old RS pipes are cheap enough and when modded (free if you do it yaself) can yield nice gains. Unbolting unnecessary parts to loose weight is more or less free. Drilling holes (in the right places of course) is free. Scrounge around the wreckers, TM and the pits might get you a bargain priced carb or ignition for example. Suspension mods like altering the front damper rods is free and, in my experience, will help handeling and lap times. Buy A. Graham Bells book 2 Stroke Tuners Guide for $30-$40 is a really good move. There is a wealth of free information on KB such as in ESE's mega thread.
    However, by far the easiest and cheapest way to have a fast bike is to buy an already proven, already built bike.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skunk View Post
    I need deeper pockets (ok, I need pockets)
    Quote Originally Posted by Skunk View Post
    and to modify the 125 just to stay level with a stock FXR.

    start with the right bike then

    my gp125 with only slight mods worked fine for years
    3rd in the 2 hour (infrount of fxr's)

    all it neaded was a decent rider

    it was built up with an rs125 chassie later for under $2000 (about what an fxr would cost)

    I dont think you have learnt any lessons YET!!


    if you cant beat an FXR buy one (if you have the money)

    if you want a 2 smoker

    START WITH A GOOD ONE not some $100 shit bucket (show me an fxr that costs $100 and is running)

    rant over SPEND SOME MONEY (it dosent have to be much. snow boarding costs more)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skunk View Post
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    I don't understand the thinking behind several posts. I feel people are looking at how it will affect them rather than the class.

    Lesson learnt.
    I'm not sure this is the reasoning, if it effects the class negatively we all loose.
    Current rules are fantastic and work well, its still damn cheap motorsport as well all well know.
    Current prices reflect relatively high demand and low supply; who's keen on bringing a container-load of FXRs in?
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