Should we let the Kakapo die out?

**HenryDorsetCase** · 13th April 2011, 16:30

Originally Posted by sil3nt

I would rather pay to keep the kakapo alive than pay to keep some lazy cuntbag alive to sit on a couch all day and watch tv or to keep someone alive so they can rot in jail.

I sort of agree with your sentiment, (if not the rather inelegant way you've expressed it).

But yeah, I'm all about the kakapo. I prefer them to kiwi even. Lot more personality.

Fairly hard to breed in captivity too (given their reproductive cycle is governed by the fruit of the rimu tree.... ). Plus its the right thing to do: they werent threatened till stoats and cats and weasels etc were introduced.

**Pussy** · 13th April 2011, 18:24

Originally Posted by sil3nt

I would rather pay to keep the kakapo alive than pay to keep some lazy cuntbag alive to sit on a couch all day and watch tv or to keep someone alive so they can rot in jail.

Yep, Spot ON!
Let a few career beneficiaries fend for themselves, and spend that dosh on the Kakapo. Sorted!

**avgas** · 13th April 2011, 19:25

Originally Posted by shrub

It would cost a lot more than $20b to move the existing business and social infrastructure to Timaru. But you're a simple chap and probably didn't understand that.

What ground do you base those assumptions on

**shrub** · 13th April 2011, 21:22

Originally Posted by avgas

What ground do you base those assumptions on

My first assumption is based on simple economics - ChCh is a city with a population of around around 350,000 in the main urban area that provides key infrastructure services for around another 250,000 in the West Coast and Canterbury. it has New Zealand's second largest international airport, the largest general hospital in the south island and one of New Zealands leading orthopaedic hospitals at Burwood. It has a major university, several other tertiary institutes including CPIT as well as several highly regarded private and public schools. Moving that infrastructure alone, as well as the many thousands of people involved in the operation would cost well in excess of $20bn. WHen you consider the many industries that have their base here, including some of New Zealand's key exporters, even suggesting moving Christchurch due to the cost supports my second assumption.

Hope that helped you.

**pete376403** · 13th April 2011, 22:41

Take the money they are planning on saving on legal aid and spend it on the kakapo. Fiscally neutral, and a better class of animal benefits.

As for numbers, the Black Robin was more endangered, and was successfully saved.

**Woodman** · 13th April 2011, 22:43

one word.

BATTERY FARM

**pete376403** · 13th April 2011, 22:54

Thats two words

**shrub** · 14th April 2011, 11:01

Originally Posted by Woodman

one word.

BATTERY FARM

They make batteries in factories not farms.

Farming dental floss is a good idea though. I might be moving to Montana soon, gonna be a dental floss tycoon.

**avgas** · 14th April 2011, 11:15

Originally Posted by shrub

My first assumption......

AYA?!!..... you failed to see the the low flying aircraft overhead?????.........
nevermind.......

Back to topic.
Kakapo cost $1M/pa to keep going. Most is provided by Rio Tinto.
So hardly breaking the bank.

Battery farms are a failed industry - they keep trying to commit suicide on the fence

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**Banditbandit** · 14th April 2011, 13:01

Originally Posted by HenryDorsetCase

I sort of agree with your sentiment, (if not the rather inelegant way you've expressed it).

But yeah, I'm all about the kakapo. I prefer them to kiwi even. Lot more personality.

Personality? A bird of dull green colour, intelligence to match, whose defense mechanism is to act like a shrub and who goes HOOOUM loudly at night .... ????

They are an evolutionary dead end ... and should be left to die out ... Humans are only partly responsible for their extinction ... and if we had not come along the Kakapo woud have died out anyway ..

**shrub** · 14th April 2011, 13:10

Originally Posted by Banditbandit

Personality? A bird... whose defense mechanism is to act like a shrub...

What? Piss around on KB winding people up when they should be working? No wonder they're dying out.

**Okey Dokey** · 14th April 2011, 13:14

Our government spends so much money on things I don't agree with, but I do support keeping the kakapo species going. Better than the Rugby World Cup which is going to cost several million. Bah!

**avgas** · 14th April 2011, 13:33

Originally Posted by Banditbandit

Personality? A bird of dull green colour, intelligence to match, whose defense mechanism is to act like a shrub and who goes HOOOUM loudly at night .... ????

They are an evolutionary dead end ... and should be left to die out ... Humans are only partly responsible for their extinction ... and if we had not come along the Kakapo woud have died out anyway ..

Replace the word Kakapo with Maori......... Humans with europeans......
hehehe

Yes I am shit stirring.......but its fun