Can you spot the motorcycle?

[Katman]

and wouldn't like it to happen on my way to uni

That's a good start.

[brin_vg]

So what does Katman suggest one should do when someone hits you in a manner as previously stated? I'm interested, because this just recently happened to a mate in his car and he didn't survive to tell me how it could be avoided, so please, enlighten me as I live just over a Km from the where the fatal incident was and wouldn't like it to happen on my way to uni

It could quite clearly be avoided by paying higher ACC levies.

[ducatilover]

That's a good start.

Is it avoidable when someone is going to do 100km/h through a completely blind intersection, apart from slowing down to a snails pace to check the intersection for oncoming maniacs then getting rear ended by a car I didn't see with my blnd left eye?

[ducatilover]

It could quite clearly be avoided by paying higher ACC levies.

Yes. That is true, I never thought of that.
I wanted to do some rider training, buuuuuut, I instead put more registration on my bike, it was scary going to the shops knowing that I am 18 times more likely to die per Km than a car in Nick the Pricks perfect statistics.

[Berries]

Stats will record rider was wearing Hi-Viz and survived.
ACC conclusion? Hi-viz = good.
Result? All bikers to wear Hi-viz.

Slight correction. Stats won't record rider was wearing hi-viz.

[MSTRS:Me]

Of course. I wasn't being serious, other than to show how the genus Bureaucratica's mind works...

[ducatilover]

'Tis almost as if we are the proletariat.

[skinman]

just out of interest I have been broadsided by a car also. I was about 18 & riding a pushbike, from those who saw it they estimate 3 rotations with a half twist before impact with the road, one of my better efforts.
That sort of crash is completely unavoidable, by the rider anyway.

[pritch]

I haven't read the whole thread, but what I have read induces feelings of sympathy for the poor folk at Auckland Transport. It must be very difficult creating promotional material and designing tests when you have zero knowledge of the topic in question.

[brin_vg]

I haven't read the whole thread, but what I have read induces feelings of sympathy for the poor folk at Auckland Transport. It must be very difficult creating promotional material and designing tests when you have zero knowledge of the topic in question.

I might feel bad for them if they weren't being paid for their incompetence.

[Berries]

I actually think we should congratulate the bike rider for saving a much more serious crash.

In the first image, the bike is closer to the intersection than the car. For the two vehicles to meet at the intersection the car must therefore be travelling at a much greater speed than the bike. For the crash to happen the car driver must have completely missed the fact that there was an intersection ahead, which is explainable given some of the deficiencies with the signage and no doubt the speed limit as well. Being in Auckland the driver was probably an Asian if I may use a totally incorrect and outrageous stereotype.

Rider sees what is going to happen, increases his speed to try and hit the car and alter its path away from the guy with the cones and the bird in front of him. If he had been wearing hi-viz the car driver 'may' have seen him earlier, braked and swerved and then killed both the peds. Well done Mrs bike rider I say.

Unfortunately the rider was later prosecuted for failing to stop in the available distance, riding with registration on hold, no headlights on, not being ATGATT and being in charge of an offensive face.

[superman]

can't argue there except I think some moderation around reasonable actions. There are some that claim "there was nothing I could do" when in fact they were F'wits but when the rider has taken reasonable action or is just discussing contributing factors these discussions are also important. I feel it is also important we as a community look to minimizing these, after all it is the basis on which a lot of road works etc are done.
A car pulling an unsignalled u-turn in front of the bike doesn't leave the rider many options, as shown in Paraparaumu the other day the result is much the same when the following vehicle is a car except the turner is forced to stop.

Mount the seat with your feet and jump just before your bike collides with the car. This way you will only slide along the ground and hopefully not have a collision. Depending on size of said vehicle.

I swear there could be a situation where it might be useful to just jump if you had the second necessary to make the maneuver. Maybe...

[scumdog]

It's them yeller boomarang thingies that caused the problem...

[brin_vg]

Mount the seat with your feet and jump just before your bike collides with the car. This way you will only slide along the ground and hopefully not have a collision. Depending on size of said vehicle.

I swear there could be a situation where it might be useful to just jump if you had the second necessary to make the maneuver. Maybe...

Was thinking about this yesterday. In my experience going over the car, hitting the ground on an angle and sliding beats the hell out of going from x km/h to 0 km/h in zero seconds flat.

[swbarnett]

Mount the seat with your feet and jump just before your bike collides with the car. This way you will only slide along the ground and hopefully not have a collision. Depending on size of said vehicle.

I swear there could be a situation where it might be useful to just jump if you had the second necessary to make the maneuver. Maybe...

My wife did this without trying at about 50k and came away with nothing more than a cracked pelvis and a LOT of bruising. The bike went over too.