How would you rebuild Christchurch?

**jim.cox** · 15th April 2011, 11:48

Originally Posted by imdying

Next plonker with stupid and/or big ideas and fuck all idea .

Will be made head of CERA

**Grumph** · 15th April 2011, 11:50

Originally Posted by imdying

Another retarded suggestion.... we're going to bulldoze the city into the sea because a tiny portion of it needs rebuilding?

Next plonker with stupid and/or big ideas and fuck all idea about how it'll be paid for please....

Oh, and given you get 4 times the rain and less sunshine hours in a year, you can shove your weather crack up your arse too.

Mostly true...except the weather. If it was done as suggested I could walk to a supermarket....Weather here approx 50K inland is frequently much better than coastal but that's academic anyway as CHCH will be rebuilt where it is.
And I hope by CHRISTCHURCH RESIDENTS not some bloody out of towner with his own agenda....

**mashman** · 15th April 2011, 11:56

Originally Posted by Grumph

Mostly true...except the weather. If it was done as suggested I could walk to a supermarket....Weather here approx 50K inland is frequently much better than coastal but that's academic anyway as CHCH will be rebuilt where it is.
And I hope by CHRISTCHURCH RESIDENTS not some bloody out of towner with his own agenda....

I wouldn't count on it. But it doesn't mean it wouldn't happen.

From the About Us page on the CERA website

"CERA will be located in Christchurch and will be staffed predominantly by people from greater Christchurch organisations. There will also be a need for CERA to manage policy and legislative processes with secondments from Wellington-based central government and other agencies as appropriate. "

"International experience may also be helpful through the establishment phase, in particular in determining the skills and capabilities required for CERA. Officials will investigate options to access such expertise for consideration by the Chief Executive of CERA."

Make sure you feather your own nest first.

**slofox** · 15th April 2011, 12:14

Originally Posted by imdying

Another retarded suggestion.... we're going to bulldoze the city into the sea because a tiny portion of it needs rebuilding?

Next plonker with stupid and/or big ideas and fuck all idea about how it'll be paid for please....

Oh, and given you get 4 times the rain and less sunshine hours in a year, you can shove your weather crack up your arse too.

It was not meant to be a serious suggestion imdying - sorry if it upset you. No offence intended.

**avgas** · 15th April 2011, 12:25

Originally Posted by imdying

Next plonker with stupid and/or big ideas and fuck all idea about how it'll be paid for please....

He's right.
Save money - just leave the building for the next quake to knock em down. No need to bulldoze.

Jokes aside - I think moving the CBD is not such a dumb idea. Could be done quite easily. And the city would benefit from it. Make the current CBD a park or something.
Ground Zero it so to speak.

Not to mention this could all start happening NOW rather than after 10 years of BS consenting.

**imdying** · 15th April 2011, 12:47

Originally Posted by slofox

It was not meant to be a serious suggestion imdying - sorry if it upset you. No offence intended.

You're such a nice guy, I woulda told me to eat shit

Remind me I owe you some rep.

As for moving the CBD... maybe some sort of distributed idea would work better? Do they do that in other cities? But it'll never happen, it's just not that badly damaged. Sure it's not safe (to enter) till they knock all the stuff that is rooted down, but it's not actually that everything is poked.

**avgas** · 15th April 2011, 13:15

Originally Posted by imdying

As for moving the CBD... maybe some sort of distributed idea would work better? Do they do that in other cities? But it'll never happen, it's just not that badly damaged. Sure it's not safe (to enter) till they knock all the stuff that is rooted down, but it's not actually that everything is poked.

Not sure what you mean by distributed - but if its what I think you mean, you mean similar to Tokyo's "wards". Could work - but you would need substantial population to support it.

As for not being that damaged - think of an iceberg - what you see above ground is just the beginning. Think of the damage done above ground times it by 10 and your still not even close to the damage below ground.

Old man went to go empty a couple of his pits inside the DMZ. He reckons not only are all his projects stuffed, the infrastructure is so efffed up that the only people who will enjoy the concept of the devastation (and subsequent rebuild in the area) are the consultants. Who don't do any work any way.
They are rubbing their hand together with joy, with the fact that Chch are so faithful to their CBD - and demand they get it rebuilt.
They can charge more now thanks to that. Will take more time. Laughing all the way to the bank.

**fuknKIWI** · 16th April 2011, 15:44

Originally Posted by CAMSec

...it's a small world...but it would take a fucking long time to paint...

Yeh yeh take the easy job someone's got clean it

**fuknKIWI** · 16th April 2011, 15:47

Originally Posted by slofox

Bulldoze what's left into the sea and move the whole thing 50km inland...weather'd be better for a start.

Yeah round Darfield

**Headbanger** · 16th April 2011, 15:54

Originally Posted by imdying

As for moving the CBD... maybe some sort of distributed idea would work better? Do they do that in other cities? But it'll never happen, it's just not that badly damaged. Sure it's not safe (to enter) till they knock all the stuff that is rooted down, but it's not actually that everything is poked.

It could be done very easily.

Knock down everything that is damaged.
Restrict all new building consents in the area to single levels and designate what the council holds title to as parkland.
Put in the infrastructure (elsewhere for a new CBD, zone it as such, and make it easy for everyone to build their shit there.

In the event they just rebuild in the same spot, and then it gets knocked down in the next quake, I'm going head on down and get me a refund for the donations I made to the cause.

**BMWST?** · 16th April 2011, 16:20

there is nothing wrong with the land in the cbd is there,its just most of the builings were old masonry buildings?

**fuknKIWI** · 16th April 2011, 18:02

Originally Posted by Oakie

Why consult the iwi anyway? They sold us this dodgy land in the first place.

If you're a student of history you'll know that they didn't buy the CBD (The Square Mile) from an Iwi

**Grumph** · 16th April 2011, 19:44

According to the liquefaction map in todays ChCh Press most of the square mile is pretty good - just a zone roughly following the Avon and a couple of other spots which will have to be avoided.
Areas which should not be rebuilt on are to the East mainly - suburbs rather than business areas.

The word has been going round here for a couple of years now that ChCh and surrounding districts are in line to be the next SuperCity...Rolleston is already developing as a residential and business hub. Wouldn't surprise me if CERA brings the timetable forward....Please god they do as Selwyn council are intent on building NZ's most expensive town at Rolleston and I want it part of ChCh and out of my rates....