Eleven Billion

**short-circuit** · 27th April 2011, 11:05

Originally Posted by Indiana_Jones

I'm with TM on this one.

Most kids at school today have the uni stuff rammed down their throats and think they have no choice but to go if they want any hope in life at all.

Some people are just not made for uni really, myself one of them, and prefer trades and technical jobs. Sure a lot of those jobs need training, but a lot is on job and at technical college.

It just seems like kids are being told it's a bad thing to get your hands dirty or going to tech is for dumb arses...

-Indy

Polytechs still cost equivalent fees to university

**short-circuit** · 27th April 2011, 11:08

Originally Posted by superman

You hardly have any good career options without university. To say that that should be paid by the student is ridiculous. What about all those from lower income areas, how are they ever going to afford tertiary even if they want to progress, instead they'll sit copying their parents becoming dole bludgers or low paid leaning on shovel workers.

The fact they call it a loan in the first place is stupid, do you expect all the baby boomers to pay back their free tertiary education?

The universities lead the country with research and education, and to say it's something you should pay for yourself at full 100% price is saying that the country doesn't care at all whether you further your education from where it stops at high school. Good message to send across to NZ's already under educated lot.

That's the intention rather than the side effect - keep the masses dumb and keep the poor poor. That's how you maintain a class system

**Oblivion** · 27th April 2011, 11:08

At least we are not like the Americans where dropkicks are treated as cannon fodder for the egotistic military.

**avgas** · 27th April 2011, 11:14

Originally Posted by Oblivion

At least we are not like the Americans where dropkicks are treated as cannon fodder for the egotistic military.

No its much better to teach them a life of lazyness

**Oblivion** · 27th April 2011, 11:23

Originally Posted by avgas

No its much better to teach them a life of lazyness

Is that why armchairs are the symbol of American culture then?

**Indiana_Jones** · 27th April 2011, 11:49

Originally Posted by short-circuit

Polytechs still cost equivalent fees to university

Tech isn't cheaper by any means, but companies can and will support people through it and provide them with experience.

Some will pay for the courses, subject to a return of service.

Get trained, earn money and once you're all done you'll end up working for the said company. If you don't want to, then you still have the piece of paper and the real world experience.

-Indy

**Smifffy** · 27th April 2011, 11:49

http://www.theonion.com/articles/pro...luation,20130/

Leon Rothberg, Ph.D., a 58-year-old professor of English Literature at Ohio State University, was shocked and saddened Monday after receiving a sub-par mid-semester evaluation from freshman student Chad Berner. The circles labeled 4 and 5 on the Scan-Tron form were predominantly filled in, placing Rothberg’s teaching skill in the “below average” to “poor” range...

**Brian d marge** · 27th April 2011, 12:37

Originally Posted by marty

SO here, after studying hard and not getting a SL (the SL I do have is not in my direct field of work....

), I earn pretty good $$, have a world class health plan, my house costs me <10% of my net (combined) income, and frankly, asian girls just don't do it for me...

I'm pretty happy

I take it you dont live in West Auckland then . and being given the house by you mum doesn't count

Stephen

btw , 10 % on any house in NZ , is one hell of a cheap house or you work as a consultant

**Bald Eagle** · 27th April 2011, 12:41

Originally Posted by Brian d'marge

you work as a consultant

That's a delightful oxymoron.

**marty** · 27th April 2011, 13:20

Originally Posted by Brian d'marge

I take it you dont live in West Auckland then . and being given the house by you mum doesn't count

Stephen

btw , 10 % on any house in NZ , is one hell of a cheap house or you work as a consultant

No - I live in Cambridge.

And my parents gave me $1000 towards my first house in 1989 - I paid that back in 1990 and have not borrowed a cent from them since. In my 5th house now - $800k worth, and have nearly cleaned out my mortgage.

And I'm not a consultant.

**Indiana_Jones** · 27th April 2011, 13:42

Originally Posted by marty

In my 5th house now - $800k worth, and have nearly cleaned out my mortgage.

*ziiiiiiip*

Well since we're all gonna compare....

-Indy

**marty** · 27th April 2011, 14:21

Originally Posted by Indiana_Jones

*ziiiiiiip*

Well since we're all gonna compare....

-Indy

was only replying to brian's suggestion that i hadn't worked to get where i am. if however the govt wants to give me free money that is now less worth than it was when i spent it, then i'm gonna use it!

i hadn't even considered comparing penis size. takes a special thought process to go there

**steve_t** · 27th April 2011, 14:27

Originally Posted by marty

No - I live in Cambridge.

And my parents gave me $1000 towards my first house in 1989 - I paid that back in 1990 and have not borrowed a cent from them since. In my 5th house now - $800k worth, and have nearly cleaned out my mortgage.

And I'm not a consultant.

I say good on ya for working hard and getting yourself to where you are now. I hope to be like that in my coming years. I'm sure by the time I look to buy a house like your current one, it'll cost me twice as much as it's worth now.
You work for the government don't you, Marty?