While Looking through Google I Found this!!!
A Person that alot of people obviously trusted,Other clubs should be aware of this Lowlife man!!!
http://www.stuff.co.nz/southland-tim...-theft-charges
L-Plate Rider
While Looking through Google I Found this!!!
A Person that alot of people obviously trusted,Other clubs should be aware of this Lowlife man!!!
http://www.stuff.co.nz/southland-tim...-theft-charges
tripple dip
He's defending the charges and hasn't been convicted yet.Originally Posted by Vincent-racer
"You never understood that it ain't no good, you shouldn't let other people get your kicks for you" - Bob Dylan
Fully qualified Sifter.
What's this mean then...
A 47-year-old Invercargill man yesterday admitted eight charges of theft from the Southland Motorcycle Club.
tripple dip
I guess that means he's admitted it
The article referenced in the original post said he was defending the charges.
"You never understood that it ain't no good, you shouldn't let other people get your kicks for you" - Bob Dylan
Fully qualified Sifter.
Think you need to read it again!
Re(tarder)
John's a good guy and he did alot for racing down south.
i don't know all the details or why and in no way endorse or encourage his actions but its not all about tar and feathers. People do make bad decisions and stupid mistakes, doesn't necessarily make them lowlifes.
For anything race related from arai helmets, to sprockets and chains, XT Lap timers, HRC parts you name it, Kev can get it www.racesupplies.co.nz
Low personal B.M.E.P.
Yes, he did good work in an area where it's hard to find and keep workers for the sport.
BUT long term the damage he did may just prove fatal for roadracing in the deep south.
The figures I've heard bandied about are significant - and the likelihood of the club seeing any of it back is very small.
Registered User
John Smart has done a lot of good work for the club in the past and the story I have heard from a number of people in the know at that end of the country,Is he is a victim of a club culture that is long standing,Whereby there are no proper records kept of cash transactions including crossentries and the reimbursment of helpers.
Of course I dont have all the facts,But what I can say is,All the business dealings I have had with John Smart have been handled in a proffesional manner.
However,From the experience I had with the new administration at the National round there this year,I'd be more worried now,No reciepts given,An accusation the very next day that my entry had not been paid,By the same person I had paid it too,Incorrect fee charged and NO refund or change offered,Informed my transponder wasnt working and forced to hire one off the club only too find after qualifying I no less than 3 qualifying times from 2 transponders and when I told them about it was told in no uncertain terms there would be no refund for their transponder hire????
Moped rider
Yes a total shame how this all has ended as he did wonder's for Roadracing In the South.I have nothing againt Mr Smart, but this sort of behavior cant be tolarated. Clubs run as non profit as it is and as Grumph said is previous post The club will suffer in time..
As for BILLY you should ring Steve Winteringham if you have any inquiries regarding how things were run at nationals,this man had no previous experience in running a national meeting,and as far as I know nationals wouldnt have taken place if he didnt put his hand up.No one's Perfect BILLY!
Registered User
1) It was him I was dealing with at the meeting
2)He never answers his phone
3)He doesnt return his messages
4)Your right nodody is perfect,Me included,But a National points round is a very different animal to a club day and should be treated as such,If your out of your depth you seek help from those who have done the job before,Names like John Beck,Peter Ramage and if your who I think you are(Used to ride a KR1 back in the late eighties and are a past President and roadrace convener for SMCC)Yourself.
Moped rider
No Got yah wire's crossed their billy Never raced In the late 80's But I was Born in 89
As for Steve I dont agree with some of his idea's but he's having ago,All the past Admin were awesome but its the same old thing they got burnt out,Hours of voluntary work with little thanks and appreciation.
You know how it is with the 250's Keep it up it's only going to Grow...
Hardcore Biker
Guilty or not it's a shame things like this happen and tarnish a good clubs reputation.
Hopefully this gets worked out and is just a bump in the road for the club. I know there are alot of good people working behind the scene to bring the club back up to where it should be.
Hardcore Biker
IF this man is guilty of these charges, I feal very sorry for him and his family, something other than JUST GREED has prompted him to do it.
Anyone that has dealt with this man over the years Know,s what a true gentelman he is.
SMCC, very sorry to all the members that this happened to such a positive club
I fear the day technology will surpass our human interaction. The world will have a generation of idiots! ALBERT EINSTEIN
Harrasing towbars since 2007
I too have had great dealings with John and this is very sad news. I would be very hesitant calling him a low life a this early stage of the procedures. It would be interesting to know the details once all has come out in the wash...
Remember, some of our ancestors were all criminals trying to escape our own mother England as they were to be hanged...most of them were merely criminals because they stole bread trying to survive because of a corrupt system.
If John was doing whatever he did for personal gain then he will need to face the music...I would hazzard a guess there is more to this story than what is in this article.
Harrasing towbars since 2007
Interesting this is your first post Vincent....hidden agenda perhaps? Care to put a name to your alias?
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