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    Extinction of man?

    Ok... We have worked as hunters for more than 100,000 years, as farmers for 10,000 years, in manufacturing for 200 years and in services for the last 30 years.

    So, what do you imagine we will we be working as next? Service/information providers for the next million years?

    Manufacturing has been in decline since the end of World War 2 and thanks to our invention and advancement of the computer it is now becoming all automated and people shifted to services. However, as it turns out with the help of the computer we're also managing to make services more efficient day by day. As we speak they are implementing those check-in machines at airports, automated tellers for banks, self check-outs for retailers etc; all the time, more technological unemployment. I just came back from the airport today and saw this for myself. Our economic paradigm calls for profit and constant increasing demand and growth, but we can't meet those requirements if less and less people have money in pocket to consume from these ongoing effects.

    But it seems there is now a category beyond services, and it's the fastest growing segment of our economy today. It is called... unemployment. We are entering the cutting new age of unemployment!!

    So as more and more people head into the unemployment sector, we need more and more dole payments. It can't possibly reach the point where 50% of the people are supporting 50% couch potatoes, so there must be a point where the system breaks right? After all, dole payments can't be given out for every soul and western countries are already drowning in debt as it is. Insurrection will do no good either. So if the exponential trends just mentioned have any validity, it doesn't seem that there's much longer until man's artificial economy breaks. Within 20 years?

    So when the breaking point comes and the profit mechanism fails, our agriculture can not function, for there is no incentive to work. Suddenly 7 billion people are effectively stranded in cities without food, and hence the extinction of man.

    I was thinking, why are my friends and the hordes of young people around me taking our their loans and starting their Bachelors in business, finance and accounting etc? Isn't it more worthwhile studying a Bachelor in survival skills instead? More future prospects and career opportunities for sure, not to mention the perk of being self employed right upon graduation. What course providers are there in Auckland and are they Studylink approved?

    NZ is a pretty good place for to be in though I'd say...
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    Correct. Aaand... Correct.
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    I was going to give you the usual cheerful welcome of F**k off Noob, but Kate and Wills have made me a bit weepy so you get a pass.

    This time.

    Now - homosapiens sapiens has been hunting for 3 million years. The service industry had its early genesis in the Sumarian culture 4700 years ago. Not achieved. Manufacturing ramped up from 1790 so you get a Merit on that.

    As for where from here? Our great great etc grandparents spent most of their waking hours surviving. Today some folk don't even get out of bed and still put on weight. What's happened is human productivity has soared to the point where we don't have to work hard anymore - apart from the few 5 billion in the Third World. I'm picking we'll all be in bed by 2100.

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    Quote Originally Posted by racefactory View Post
    It can't possibly reach the point where 50% of the people are supporting 50% couch potatoes, so there must be a point where the system breaks right?
    Why not?

    Costings for Computer working 24/7: $100/month power bill.
    Global salary savings: Several trillion.
    Cost of maintaing dolites: Several hundred billion.

    What would you do? The system breaks when the finance computers stop working.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Winston001 View Post
    I was going to give you the usual cheerful welcome of F**k off Noob, but Kate and Wills have made me a bit weepy so you get a pass.

    This time.

    Now - homosapiens sapiens has been hunting for 3 million years. The service industry had its early genesis in the Sumarian culture 4700 years ago. Not achieved. Manufacturing ramped up from 1790 so you get a Merit on that.

    As for where from here? Our great great etc grandparents spent most of their waking hours surviving. Today some folk don't even get out of bed and still put on weight. What's happened is human productivity has soared to the point where we don't have to work hard anymore - apart from the few 5 billion in the Third World. I'm picking we'll all be in bed by 2100.
    Yeah sorry man I know, but it's the linear trend that matters really.

    We have to invent something new, quick! That or a ban on technology anyone?
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    For the sake of safety ... your local WINZ office will be open from 9 am untill 4 pm. Monday - Friday ...

    Local hours may vary. ..... Good luck ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by FJRider View Post
    For the sake of safety ... your local WINZ office will be open from 9 am untill 4 pm. Monday - Friday ...

    Local hours may vary. ..... Good luck ...
    ...Full throttle till you see god, then brake.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mashman View Post
    Why not?

    Costings for Computer working 24/7: $100/month power bill.
    Global salary savings: Several trillion.
    Cost of maintaing dolites: Several hundred billion.

    What would you do? The system breaks when the finance computers stop working.

    Have a nice day
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    Edit: 11 years :sad:
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    Quote Originally Posted by racefactory View Post
    ....but it's the linear trend that matters really.
    Oh dear. I did warn you. FAIL.

    It's an exponential trend for growth. Human population growth. Technology. Knowledge.

    However there are concurrent opposite trends of reduction. Food, resources, biological forms of life, physical living space.

    IMHO there will be a human cataclysm about 2030 lasting two generations (50 years) and the human population will settle at 2 billion with a high quality of life for all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Winston001 View Post
    Oh dear. I did warn you. FAIL.

    It's an exponential trend for growth. Human population growth. Technology. Knowledge.

    However there are concurrent opposite trends of reduction. Food, resources, biological forms of life, physical living space.

    IMHO there will be a human cataclysm about 2030 lasting two generations (50 years) and the human population will settle at 2 billion with a high quality of life for all.
    Fail. Population growth rate is not exponential. It has been decreasing since 1963 and still falling.
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    HHmmm, might start buying 7 cans of baked beans a week and stashing them under the house for when the famine starts. Makes more sense than paying into the retirement fund if money is going to be no use soon. Can't eat money.

    BTW, how long do baked beans last under the house??
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    Not sure but I'm going with tinned fish. Given the current raping of the oceans, at that time there won't be any more Tuna left so it will be quite a rarity. Need those Omega 3's during times of famine.

    Money? Spend it and have fun with it while you can. It will only be useful for toilet paper and conversion into chemical energy for warmth at that point.
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    Quote Originally Posted by racefactory View Post
    Not sure but I'm going with tinned fish. Given the current raping of the oceans, at that time there won't be any more Tuna left so it will be quite a rarity. Need those Omega 3's during times of famine.

    Money? Spend it and have fun with it while you can. It will only be useful for toilet paper and conversion into chemical energy for warmth at that point.
    What about Twinkies? Apparently they can survive a Nuclear Apocalypse, So why not the end of the world?

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    when theres too many of us to support,nature will find a way to cut us down,like the overgrowing weeds we are.reminds me of a statue I saw here in Singapore recently....

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    Quote Originally Posted by racefactory View Post
    it doesn't seem that there's much longer until man's artificial economy breaks.

    hey.
    wait a minute!
    hasn't it ALREADY broken?

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