Should Katman shut the fuck up?

[Ronin]

I think all you cunts should shut the fuck up.

No need to get your fanny in a twist.

[nodrog:Me]

No need to get your fanny in a twist.

wanna root?

[Katman]

Not for me to do so, if the family feel it necessary to post it, then fine.

So why did you bother bringing it up?

[Crasherfromwayback]

No need to get your fanny in a twist.

wanna root?

Anyone here ever rooted a twisted fanny?

[Maha]

So why did you bother bringing it up?

If you read the post I replied to regurading this, it was someone else who made mention of the coroner's report first, not me.

[Banditbandit]

My major problem with you came from that. It was said in a tribute thread to Bruce, that I know for a fact his family were reading. Regardless of your thoughts, I simply think it was really bad form to talk about the son they lost in that manner. Neither Steve or Peggy (Bruces parents) have been the same since they lost Bruce, and they're both really lovely people that didn't deserve to read that said about their son.

But anyhow...even I've slowly (yes I'm a bit special) come to realise that your are in fact trying to help and spread the word. I just wish you'd sometimes tone it down a little.

I agree. The comments about LooseBruce were definitely in the "insensitive arrogant wanker" category ... but yes, as I've said before your message is good ... and certainly affected my attitutude - which was pretty much macho-biker ... and therefore my riding ...

So keep it up .. but sometimes you could tone it down - as appropriate

[george formby]

Anyone here ever rooted a fisted tranny?

Is that what you meant? I'm sure the answer is yes.

[Ronin]

wanna root?

do you reach around?

[Katman]

If you read the post I replied to regurading this, it was someone else who made mention of the coroner's report first, not me.

You brought the incident up back on page 7.

But now you're not telling.

Are you sure it's not you doing the ego stroking here?

[Ronin]

Anyone here ever rooted a twisted fanny?

Yes


Nuff said.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Is that what you meant? I'm sure the answer is yes.

I've never even fisted one of them mate...

[Spearfish]

A twisted fanny would be like rifling in a barrel?

[nodrog:Me]

do you reach around?

will you squeal?

[Maha]

You brought the incident up back on page 7.

But now you're not telling.

Are you sure it's not you doing the ego stroking?

The incident, yes I did, it was the first contentous issue involving you that came to mind. I didn't mention the coroner's report though like you suggested, that was someone else, can you not read?
If you dont know the outcome by now you will never know.
As I said, it is not for me to say..

[MarkH]

No one will ever admit to fucking up....thats where Steve suggests wrong to right.

I'm sure I have read threads where someone has said that they fucked up and had an accident and gave all the details so that the rest of us could learn from their mistakes.

I am also smart enough to understand that when an accident happens that is not the bikers fault it doesn't mean that the biker couldn't have done something different to avoid it. As Katman has said, when your dead it doesn't matter if it was the other driver's fault. Realising that an idiot may pull a U-turn and cause an accident and reacting to that impending stupidity and avoiding that accident - that is a way to not be dead regardless of who's fault the accident would have been.

I think that not every accident is avoidable, but we SHOULD act as if they were when we are riding - what value is there in not trying to avoid accidents? If you do a good job of avoiding accidents then it is only the avoidable ones you will have, if you don't do a good job then you could end up having an avoidable accident.
Unavoidable accidents are rare, so many motorcyclists can ride for decades without ever having one.
Avoidable accidents are not nearly so rare, so we should all do our best to avoid them.

I don't like telling someone that has had an accident that it was their fault when there is no evidence to back that up - this seems to be a difference between me & Katman. But when someone is posting their experience on a public forum there is no reason why someone can't politely mention that if they had acted differently then they may have been able to avoid the accident. If you don't want someone commenting on what you could have done differently then stay the fuck out of public forums IMO.


Here is an example of something that Katman has suggested:
When the car driver in front of you is clearly a fuckin' idiot then you are better off not trusting their intentions if they slow & pull to the left, relax and slow down behind them rather than blasting passed - if they suddenly pull a U-turn you'll be glad you exercised some caution.
The accident in question was the fault of the car driver IMO, but I appreciate what Katman suggested and following his advice could save your life. Telling the injured rider it was his fault (both the rider and his pillion daughter went to hospital) is just being a cunt, but saying the sentence above is fine by me.