Internet use, responsibility?

[jonbuoy]

After watching Fair Go I got to thinking about my legal standing as an internet provider ( I own an interweb cafe ) re the recent law changes.

The upshot was that the person who has the connection / pays the bills is responsible for what that connection is used for.
I cannot monitor how my computers are used & cannot stand as judge & jury over my customers.

IMHO the law is unworkable, what are KBers thoughts on this & is their really a risk of prosecution?

Why can´t you monitor/control? www.untangle.com block P2P traffic, proxy sites, torrent sites etc... free edition is pretty good by itself.

[NighthawkNZ:Me]

Why can´t you monitor/control? www.untangle.com block P2P traffic, proxy sites, torrent sites etc... free edition is pretty good by itself.

Because people say P2P and torrent and instintly think piracy... well you can also have true freeware on P2P networks and from most torrent sites... as it is a good way to get the software out there...

Example: The last version of Open Office I downloaded was a P2P network from their OOo own site and downloaded in a couple minutes it was great.

And same goes for when you actually buy the softwaremany companys put it on a their torrent network.

I was think of making my own torrent site for my music (which is free). Southern Rider was thinking about a torrent site for videos for our members...

So just blocking them will block a lot more than just piracy

[jonbuoy]

Because people say P2P and torrent and instintly think piracy... well you can also have true freeware on P2P networks and from most torrent sites... as it is a good way to get the software out there...

Example: The last version of Open Office I downloaded was a P2P network from their OOo own site and downloaded in a couple minutes it was great.

And same goes for when you actually buy the softwaremany companys put it on a their torrent network.

I was think of making my own torrent site for my music (which is free). Southern Rider was thinking about a torrent site for videos for our members...

So just blocking them will block a lot more than just piracy

For a public internet cafe looking to protect themselves from liability its a small price to pay.

[wysper]

Because people say P2P and torrent and instintly think piracy... well you can also have true freeware on P2P networks and from most torrent sites... as it is a good way to get the software out there...

Do you know if downloading episodes of a tv show that have been shown or a scheduled to be shown on NZ tv free to air is illegal? or is it a case by case basis and each show is different?

[NighthawkNZ:Me]

Do you know if downloading episodes of a tv show that have been shown or a scheduled to be shown on NZ tv free to air is illegal? or is it a case by case basis and each show is different?

illegal... it is technically illegal to even record any tv show for watching it later.

[Ronin]

illegal... it is technically illegal to even record any tv show for watching it later.

It used to be and is no longer. This upset the Americans no end.

[Scuba_Steve]

It used to be and is no longer. This upset the Americans no end.

have they changed it? for at-least 4yrs after the iPods release in NZ it was illegal to use it as intended due to our overly retarded laws

[NighthawkNZ:Me]

It used to be and is no longer. This upset the Americans no end.

Putting the show on a torrent site is illegal. Not that I give a shit...

As far as I know it still is illegal to record the show even for private use to watch later... but since we just do it, they turn the so called blind eye. As long as if you are no reselling and or uploading it to the net...

[Hawkeye]

As far as I know it still is illegal to record the show even for private use to watch later... but since we just do it, they turn the so called blind eye. As long as if you are no reselling and or uploading it to the net...

So what your saying is that sky, with their My Sky packaging, are technically encouraging illegal practices.

[Ronin]

Putting the show on a torrent site is illegal. Not that I give a shit...

As far as I know it still is illegal to record the show even for private use to watch later... but since we just do it, they turn the so called blind eye. As long as if you are no reselling and or uploading it to the net...

From: http://www.med.govt.nz/templates/Pag...290.aspx#P2_41

Permitted acts include:

"fair dealing" - for the purposes of criticism, review, news reporting, research or private study;
limited copying or dealing in the work for particular educational purposes;
limited copying or dealing in the work by librarians or archivists in specific circumstances;
exceptions in respect of certain activities by the Crown;
copying for the purposes of making copies that are in Braille;
subject to certain conditions, the making of a back-up copy of a computer program; and
recording a television programme for the purpose of making a complaint or for "time shifting" purposes so that a programme can be watched at a more convenient time.

There is no general exception to copyright infringement for private of domestic copying, including "format shifting", of legitimately purchased recordings from one medium to another to allow playing or viewing via other devices.

Yup, shifting formats to view/listen on another device is illegal.