Gear that saved my arse...

[skippa1]

Do ACC cover the cost of hospital treatment?

Only if you fill out the ACC form

[skippa1]

Totally relevant. OP suggested that good gear won't save you from being a cock. It is equally true that good gear won't save you if you are being completely on to it in your riding, but get unlucky.
Or are you saying that wearing good gear is totally irrelevant?

Really? I suggested that?

[MSTRS:Me]

yes, they were good quality though, see pics,

SWMBO fell off at around 40kph, slid about 60ft and did less but similar damage to her leathers.
Good gear is invaluable.

[Grubber]

Thought a quick reveiw of the gear that saved my arse on a 85kmh crash on realitively new seal might help someone. All else aside, I was very lucky that a car wasnt coming the other way, the gear wont protect you from sudden stops.
1) Helmet - Shoei XR1100. I hit the ground face first, my helmet took the full initial impact. It has a half dozen large scars down the side, the visor is completly rashed and torn from its fittings on one side. In short, it saved my noggin. A lesser helmet may have failed, I had mild delayed concussion but all else was fine.
2) Gloves - good quality hard knukle gloves. As my noggin was becoming aquainted with the ashphalt, my left knukles punched the ground and tore the leather covering off the knukles, down to the plastic. No doubt in my mind, that if I had my Alpinestars soft knukle gloves on, the outcome would have been some bark off.
3) Full 2 piece leathers with armour - these were a saviour. Wore through the knees to the armour on the pants, they were scratched around the elbows, shoulders, back, bum and thighs. As I slid down the road, I could feel the seal clawing at the leather and it felt tough and protective. Zips, buttons and stitching all held up, no failures.
4) Boots - A pair of Sidi Vertago Corsa's. Tore off the toe slider and side armour, held together apart from that.

Summary
I slid about 35-45m down the road, tumbled several times at the end. The gear saved me from rash and I believe the elbow, shoulder, knee, knukle, and thigh armour saved me from broken bones. I am very bruised, have a couple of big lumps on my arms, both big toes are black?????No rash at all. Bike is written off.
I am absolutley certain that good gear saved me from more damage. I never have ridden without some gear, but I will never ride again in Jeans, not even kevlar ones, or sandshoes. Even going to the gas station. Good gear will still not prevent major damage in a solid impact with a solid object.

Do yourself a favour......buy good gear.

Hmmmm, Don't see anything about being a cock here.....

Totally relevant.
OP suggested that good gear won't save you from being a cock. It is equally true that good gear won't save you if you are being completely on to it in your riding, but get unlucky.
Are you saying that wearing good gear is totally irrelevant?

I see everything about being a cock here though....thank god....thought i must have reading things for a minute!

[Grubber]

Really? I suggested that?

Oh come on, you wrote it, surely it must be there somewhere....my god, you're right, it's not bloody there....and seeing as you did write, one would think you would know huh....you did write it,didn't you?????

[Katman]

Only if you fill out the ACC form

I would have thought that if there were things that cost money (like x-rays being taken) that someone would fill out an ACC form - even if it wasn't you.

[skippa1]

I would have thought that if there were things that cost money (like x-rays being taken) that someone would fill out an ACC form - even if it wasn't you.

Really, is that what you thought........? I was wondering what you thought......? Really, thats what I was wondering

But really, thats not what happened......no form

[Griffin]

It is equally true that good gear won't save you if you are being completely on to it in your riding, but get unlucky.

If I am reading this correctly it would seem to me that you are saying that not all accidents are entirely the fault of the rider... but earlier in this thread you were supportive of Viragos claims that the rider is 100% responsible for their accident. Now come on... which is it - do you have your own opinion on this at all?

Grubber is completely correct... this thread was started to advise of some good gear that the OP was fortunate enough to be wearing during his accident (no blame or fault being given or accepted by him) and as the original intention of the thread was titled "gear that saved my arse" I had an interest in reading it. Unfortunatley, as all too often happens, Katman and certain others see it as an opportunity to start chest thumping and giving out unwanted pearls of their demented wisdom and the thread becomes a shit fight over something totally unrelated.

[Grubber]

SWMBO fell off at around 40kph, slid about 60ft and did less but similar damage to her leathers.
Good gear is invaluable.

Now that made much more sense....didn't hurt a bit to contribute in a normal manner now did it? Someone out there may just make some use of this small bit of info. well done!

[Katman]

If I am reading this correctly it would seem to me that you are saying that not all accidents are entirely the fault of the rider... but earlier in this thread you were supportive of Viragos claims that the rider is 100% responsible for their accident. Now come on... which is it - do you have your own opinion on this at all?

Comprehension's not your strong point, is it?

[Grubber]

Comprehension's not your strong point, is it?

Think he may have a point actually. Think comprehension may be your problem and not his. Seems you use this sentence at any time the argument turns on you.
Do you just copy and paste it from a folder full of "get out of trouble quotes"

[Quasievil]

Comprehension's not your strong point, is it?

Im not even sure what your point is in this thread, can you explain just incase we all missed, please clarify in detail

[Katman]

Think he may have a point actually. Think comprehension may be your problem and not his. Seems you use this sentence at any time the argument turns on you.
Do you just copy and paste it from a folder full of "get out of trouble quotes"

Ok, MSTRS said that not all motorcycle accidents are entirely the fault of the rider. I'm not aware of anyone who has ever suggested that they are.

Virago said that skippa was 100% responsible for his accident. Well who else was if he wasn't? (And don't say the "relatively new seal" - I'm sure plenty of motorcycles have successfully negotiated that corner since it's been resealed).

[Quasievil]

Ok, MSTRS said that not all motorcycle accidents are entirely the fault of the rider. I'm not aware of anyone who has ever suggested that they are.

Virago said that skippa was 100% responsible for his accident. Well who else was if he wasn't? (And don't say the "relatively new seal". I'm sure countless motorcycles have successfully negotiated that corner since it's been resealed).

Its worthy to note at this point that Katman has never fallen of his bike, not even once !!as he rides within his capabilities, albeit it in his shorts and a tshirt and jandles because HE is soley responsible for any outcomes that might effect him while out riding, no outside influencing factor will EVER catch the Mighty Katman out, only HE decides his destiny.

[oneofsix]

Its worthy to note at this point that Katman has never fallen of his bike, not even once !!as he rides within his capabilities, albeit it in his shorts and a tshirt and jandles because HE is soley responsible for any outcomes that might effect him while out riding, no outside influencing factor will EVER catch the Mighty Katman out, only HE decides his destiny.

I wonder if that is true that Katty has never had an off or is it a case of the "reformed smoker syndrome"?