Graham Capell

[enigma51]

Generalizing from specific incidents may be unwise, but one can't help wondering whether the hypocrisy unveiled here isn't a lot more widespread than most people believe. The mask of piety will always be a convenient cover for evil. The louder the denunciation of other people's sins, the more one points the finger at oneself...

So if im reading this right If I say i am not ROSSIE and that he is evil then I might actualy be rossie









Dont worry im just kidding I know what you are trying to say!

[Paul in NZ]

I can't help wondering if all the "how could this happen" and the " he must be sick" reactions are not just encouragement for these people.
It's a "I can't help myself, it's not my fault, I'm a victim too mentality".
It was shown clearly with Martin Sheenes "sex addiction". It's not an addiction, it's lack of self-control.
This behaviour doesn't need understanding because understanding implies that it can be fixed. On the contrary, you'll never stop it.

I honestly don't know Lou.

Revulsion has not proved to stop this behaviour up until now. It has often driven these people to amazing lengths to reach their objectives. Imagine if he started down the whole leader of religion thing just so he would get his opportunity? My god thats one powerful long time compulsion and if this is the case it is very (very) scary.

Perhaps the behaviour does need understanding because these people thrive in an atmosphere of fear and ignorance. If the kids knew it was wrong and the parents more alert this might have stopped before it started!

I dunno...

[Lou Girardin]

My point about understanding being irrelevant is based on the fact that this is a primal drive for people like Capill. It can be the prime motivator in their lives.
And yes, people do whatever it takes to get access to their victims. Scoutmasters? Priests? Teachers? Pop Stars?
I don't think that reaslistically there is much that can be done. Even the 'stranger danger' campaign didn't work because most abusers aren't strangers.

[ajturbo]

[QUOTEAnd yes, people do whatever it takes to get access to their victims. Scoutmasters? Priests? Teachers? Pop Stars?
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as usall..... everyone forgets about the painters out there... and sales men

this is just an atempt to some how lighten the subject.. it is probaly in bad taste .. but you have to know me. i try (sometimes too hard ) to see the funny side of every situation... if i didn't i probly be dead....

[WINJA]

Emotional trauma can be eased. Killing can't be reversed. Thta's why it's the ultimate offence against humanity.

1 KILLING ANOTHER HUMAN CAN SOMETIMES BE JUSTIFIED 2 TOUCHING LITTLE GIRLS CAN NEVER BE JUSTIFIED AND IF SOMEONE THINKS IT CAN BE REFER BACK TO 1.
IN SOME CASES THE EMOTIONAL TRAUMA CANT BE EASED , SOME GIRLS COMMIT SUICDE I DONT CALL THAT EASED.
BEST THING IS SEND A CLEAR MESSAGE AND MAKE AN EXAMPLE OF CAPEL.

[750Y]

That guy who made the PATHETIC attempt at slapping him outside the courthouse got 2 years.

[WINJA]

That guy who made the PATHETIC attempt at slapping him outside the courthouse got 2 years.

THAT SLAP BROKE CAPELS JAW , GOOD JOB TOO, I HEARD THE GUY WHO PUNCHED HIM IS A ROGUE BUT I STILL WANT TO SEND HIM A CARTON OF SMOKES

[Timber020]

Part of the problem lies within christian beliefs themselves.

Sex is natural, christianity says that unless its with someone your married to, its wrong. If your a priest, often you cant have sex. Its says no sex, none.
It turns the natural into the perverse, so the truely perverse (such as sexually abusing a 5 year old which may be easily accessible) is not, in the minds of the righteous (like capel) any worse than the natural.

Think about it.

[DingDong]

THAT SLAP BROKE CAPELS JAW , GOOD JOB TOO, I HEARD THE GUY WHO PUNCHED HIM IS A ROGUE BUT I STILL WANT TO SEND HIM A CARTON OF SMOKES

That was a funny clip... I vote for castration, public stoning and crusifiction... thats what he'd want.

(sorry about the spelling)

[Timber020]

wasnt a bad slap, when I first saw it I told my partner that they guy who did it had done some boxing. Sure enough!

[spudchucka]

What arguments can be put forward to support this view?

Answers in the form of an academic essay, with full referencing and bibliography, please...

INTRODUCTION:
He's a f*#ken a-hole!

MAIN ESSAY BODY:
He's a f*#ken a-hole!

CONCLUSION:
He's a f*#ken a-hole!

University of common sense says I don't need any references to back that up.

[spudchucka]

THAT SLAP BROKE CAPELS JAW , GOOD JOB TOO, I HEARD THE GUY WHO PUNCHED HIM IS A ROGUE BUT I STILL WANT TO SEND HIM A CARTON OF SMOKES

As I recall the guy who whacked Capill got jail time for the assault. Hopefully they get to be cell buddies, or at the very least Capill gets to drop the soap a few times for the lads.

[WINJA]

As I recall the guy who whacked Capill got jail time for the assault. Hopefully they get to be cell buddies, or at the very least Capill gets to drop the soap a few times for the lads.

BUT YOU KNOW SOME OF CAPELS MATES WILL BUY HIM SOAP ON A ROPE , I CANT BELIEVE HE STILL HAS FRIENDS

[SixPackBack]

Part of the problem lies within christian beliefs themselves.

Sex is natural, christianity says that unless its with someone your married to, its wrong. If your a priest, often you cant have sex. Its says no sex, none.
It turns the natural into the perverse, so the truely perverse (such as sexually abusing a 5 year old which may be easily accessible) is not, in the minds of the righteous (like capel) any worse than the natural.

Think about it.

To right sex is ESSENTIAL, try going without a piss for a couple of days......the church is wrong......hail the god of jiggy jiggy , all bow

[Zed]

Part of the problem lies within christian beliefs themselves.

Sex is natural, christianity says that unless its with someone your married to, its wrong. If your a priest, often you cant have sex. Its says no sex, none.
It turns the natural into the perverse, so the truely perverse (such as sexually abusing a 5 year old which may be easily accessible) is not, in the minds of the righteous (like capel) any worse than the natural.

Think about it.

Christian beliefs do state that sex is natural but that God originally made one woman for the man Adam and for them to remain in a marriage union for their whole lifetime together on earth. This was the model God intended mankind to follow, and many good men and women have been able to throughout history. I'm sure there will be some KBer's that will have this testimony.

The part about being a priest and not having sex is something the religious cults have concocted and practise, they are the ones who are turning the natural into perverse! The Christian Handbook is very clear that a priest/minister can have one wife with whom a sexual relationship should be practised to fulfil that natural purpose & desire.

Abusing of a 5 year old, let alone any human being, is actually unnatural and perverse and utterly condemned by God in the Christian Bible.

So part of the problem doesn't lie with Christian beliefs at all, more a misunderstanding and perversion of those beliefs!