Ride the loop for MSAC as part of our first major project

[Big Dave]

Good effort anyway Stoney. Cheers.

Bike politics in NZ. Divided and conquered by its own hand.

[riffer]

Much as I like the idea of another Bikoi I don't think they'd actually allow it now.

And maybe that's the very reason why we should do another one. But this time I don't think we should be so nice. And I'm not the only one. And that's why I reckon they won't have a bar of it at Parliament. Besides, there's now no politicians at Parliament until after the election. So we'd need to disrupt them on the hustings... Hmmm. there's potential here.

[Katman]

Still reckon I was only ever allowed on it because they thought having the BIKOI organiser involved would give it real street cred.....

Hey, at least that's something you'll be able to tell your grandchildren - again.....and again.....and again.....




....and again.....

[Eyegasm]

Hey, at least that's something you'll be able to tell your grandchildren - again.....and again.....and again.....




....and again.....

Sounds familiar eh Katman? Keep saying the same stuff over and over, someone is bound to listen in the end...

[avgas]

Did some digging over the weekend.

Seems a certain leader will be joining politics soon.
And I thought Gareth was an economist????

Here is hoping his wife kicks his arse......otherwise kiss you right to ride goodbye people.

[StoneY]

Hey, at least that's something you'll be able to tell your grandchildren - again.....and again.....and again.....

Sounds familiar eh Katman? Keep saying the same stuff over and over, someone is bound to listen in the end...

Well ya know....... life can be ironic like that.

[Smifffy]

I hope for his sake he isn't counting on the motorcyclist's vote.

Did some digging over the weekend.

Seems a certain leader will be joining politics soon.
And I thought Gareth was an economist????

Here is hoping his wife kicks his arse......otherwise kiss you right to ride goodbye people.

[avgas]

I hope for his sake he isn't counting on the motorcyclist's vote.

counting.....he's assuming.

After all - who should we talk to about everything motorcycle related in NZ? Who is the head honcho of the only motorcycle association that represents ALL registered motorcycle riders in NZ?
Who is the spokes person for all motorcyclists in NZ?

Thats right - they same guy the press turns to when we need an "lord of all NZ economics". Don't be surprised that he also gets knighted soon also.

I warned you lot before, and I will warn you again......its going to get worse. Only because people are blind as to why Gareth sticks his hand up all the time.
"He's such as nice guy, I trust him with my money"
"He's such a nice guy, he should speak for all motorcyclists"
"He's such a nice guy, he should look after the Pheonix"

"He's such a nice guy, he should run the country"
How long do I have to cry wolf before you realize the bastard is already here.

[StoneY]

You wouldn't believe the cheek of these guys.
I get kicked off the council for using Kiwibiker.

An ACC official made an approach to me yesterday to inform me they wish to continue using my imagery on the flyers they hand out for rider training........... the ones they load up into the local cop cars and hand out at 'spot checks (rego checks grrr)'

Now I have no issue with the Ride Forever websites images, as that was a willing participation.
That's where the images they want to use were taken to be utilized originally.

But they used my image (and me mate Byron) a few months ago on flyers they were handing out at roadside rego checks disguised as 'a word with you about our new wonderful safety programs' and I copped some stick for that from a few mates but, ha wtf.

So yesterday they ask me if they can continue to use my images on the next round of flyers.....

Im like...wtf? Why?
I aint on their precious council anymore.....
I aint the leader of BRONZ Wellington anymore either....
Nothing to do with the Federation .... so why?



So I say 'no'.........
And they say 'oh but you signed the model release etc'........
So I say 'are you aware how many people know of my speeding history, of the fact I have served two suspensions within 24 months, that I have xxx$ in fines on tick with the courts.... and you want me to be on your safety flyer? Good luck with that'

Watch this space LOL

[ajturbo]

god luck ..???

worth a try big boy..lol

[Maha]

''I get kicked off the council for using Kiwibiker''.


''I get kicked off the council for what I say on Kiwibiker''...

[Smifffy]

We've done our dough. It's that simple. The McSAC was only ever going to be a puppet.

At least they've updated their website. 19 txts about shit. Whoop whoop!

[Blackbird]

At the risk of inviting scorn, no centralised body is ever going to fix a problem which largely comes down to individual responsibility. Whilst some small inroads can be made by improving roads, riding to the conditions always comes down to the rider.

The only way to stop getting screwed for ACC levies, road tax or whatever is to reduce accidents and the only way to do that is to ride smarter. I wonder out of the KB community, let alone the rest of NZ's motorcycling public, how many riders have bothered to take any formal roadcraft upskilling in (say) the last 2 or 3 years?

Katman might not exactly be diplomatic in the points he makes but that doesn't alter the fact that he's pretty much on the money about being responsible for our own well-being.

[Smifffy]

At the risk of inviting scorn, no centralised body is ever going to fix a problem which largely comes down to individual responsibility. Whilst some small inroads can be made by improving roads, riding to the conditions always comes down to the rider.

The only way to stop getting screwed for ACC levies, road tax or whatever is to reduce accidents and the only way to do that is to ride smarter. I wonder out of the KB community, let alone the rest of NZ's motorcycling public, how many riders have bothered to take any formal roadcraft upskilling in (say) the last 2 or 3 years?

Katman might not exactly be diplomatic in the points he makes but that doesn't alter the fact that he's pretty much on the money about being responsible for our own well-being.

I'd buy that IF the statistics didn't also include:

• Off-road or trail accidents
• Unlicensed/wrong class riders
• Unregistered bikes
• Accidents where an official investigation found another party primarily at fault
• Accidents on stolen motorcycles
• Accidents while fleeing police

AFAIC all of these contribute to the argument that motorcycling is unsafe, and yet leave the rest of us to carry the financial burden.

It may be pushing the point a bit far, but I believe a good case could also be made for adding excessive speed/alcohol to the list above too, since the motorcycle per se is not the root cause of the problem, and there is already a dedicated enforcement effort going on anyway.

If professional training is the answer then McSAC (I think I'll forever know them as that) could swing a deal whereby if when registerng your bike you could present a certificate from such a course dated within say the last 2 years you could qualify for a discount on the rego.

Can anyone tell me what the accident cost is to the country for correctly licensed riders, wearing the correct gear, sober and obeying the speed limits crashing on the road?

I do know of a few cases like that, but not many.

[Katman]

I'd buy that IF the statistics didn't also include:

• Off-road or trail accidents

ACC's stats may include off-road accidents but I think you'll find that NZTA's stats are solely road accidents - the most damning of which is the one the says motorcyclists are involved in 10% of all road accidents while we only make up 2% of the road going fleet.