To be disqualified: Contesting demerits?

[annonymous]

What I am looking for is some advice on both my chances of success and how to go about it properly. I understand, being kiwibiker, that people are of their own opinions and like to voice them, by all means do so but I am really in need of constructive advice.

My situation is as follows:

I am 21 years old and have racked up 85 demerits, recently getting a new fine pushing me over 100 (Haven't received this in the mail yet). What I am looking to do, is to get the demerits from the fine waived, and taking a separate form of punishment.

I understand I have broken the law, and deserve punishment, but the punishment I will receive is far too great, and I don't believe it to be fair. I need a vehicle to get to my job and university due to the distance i live from these, public transport is available for university but makes work a 2 hour journey each way for shifts of 4 hours - some shifts which finish beyond work hours and therefore a large drain on my studies and my availability for work.

I want to plea guilty but have my sentence considered/altered.

Important points I think:
-My only ever infringements have been:
*Riding outside 5am-10pm
*Doing so without 'L Plate" (so as to not get pulled over!)
And for the fine not yet received (pushing me over 100 demerits): Learner Rider exceeding 70kph.

-I have one speeding fine travelling at 55kph in a 50kph zone.

- I have been riding for 2 years now, and just after receiving my final fine of exceeding 70kph, I got my restricted. I have been very slow, I know, but have never failed a motorcycle license test, and had the restricted tester praise my riding abilities.

- I see no way that I have ever put other road users at risk with my riding (save the one 55kph fine) and am a careful road user.


Any advice is welcome, and I am open to criticism, but be aware I understand my wrong doing and take it on the chin, I just feel that the implications of a loss of license are far greater than I deserve for my non-dangerous offenses.

Any details required, let me know

- My anonymity is important, and would plead that everyone respect that.

[Laava]

Mate you need to write a letter in asking for them to quash your fine. You have already outlined some valid points however I reckon you should draft a letter then think about what you have written carefully over a couple of days before sending it in. Bullshit a bit if you have to but try not to make it unrealistic. My 2c. Good luck!

Oh, good 1st post by the way! Not popo are you?
Or are you Katmans arch nemesis, Antikatman?

[Katman]

My heart bleeds.

I'm sitting on 90 demerits for the next twelve months and I require my license for my job.

If I get caught again I will deserve to lose my license.

Harden the fuck up.

[FJRider]

I understand I have broken the law, and deserve punishment, but the punishment I will receive is far too great, and I don't believe it to be fair.

Life is seldom fair ... but what makes YOU believe YOU have more rights to leniency or a "different" punishment than anybody else ...

WHAT MAKES YOU SO SPECIAL ... ???

I need a vehicle to get to my job and university due to the distance i live from these, public transport is available for university but makes work a 2 hour journey each way for shifts of 4 hours - some shifts which finish beyond work hours and therefore a large drain on my studies and my availability for work.

NOW you think of these things ...

I want to plea guilty but have my sentence considered/altered.

Important points I think:
-My only ever infringements have been:
*Riding outside 5am-10pm
*Doing so without 'L Plate" (so as to not get pulled over!)
And for the fine not yet received (pushing me over 100 demerits): Learner Rider exceeding 70kph.

-I have one speeding fine travelling at 55kph in a 50kph zone.

- I have been riding for 2 years now, and just after receiving my final fine of exceeding 70kph, I got my restricted. I have been very slow, I know, but have never failed a motorcycle license test, and had the restricted tester praise my riding abilities.

- I see no way that I have ever put other road users at risk with my riding (save the one 55kph fine) and am a careful road user.


Any advice is welcome, and I am open to criticism, but be aware I understand my wrong doing and take it on the chin, I just feel that the implications of a loss of license are far greater than I deserve for my non-dangerous offenses.

Any details required, let me know

- My anonymity is important, and would plead that everyone respect that.

Thank you for the laugh ...

[sil3nt]

Most people would learn after being caught the first few times.

[tigertim20]

What I am looking for is some advice on both my chances of success and how to go about it properly. I understand, being kiwibiker, that people are of their own opinions and like to voice them, by all means do so but I am really in need of constructive advice.

My situation is as follows:

I am 21 years old and have racked up 85 demerits, recently getting a new fine pushing me over 100 (Haven't received this in the mail yet). What I am looking to do, is to get the demerits from the fine waived, and taking a separate form of punishment.

I understand I have broken the law, and deserve punishment, but the punishment I will receive is far too great, and I don't believe it to be fair. I need a vehicle to get to my job and university due to the distance i live from these, public transport is available for university but makes work a 2 hour journey each way for shifts of 4 hours - some shifts which finish beyond work hours and therefore a large drain on my studies and my availability for work.

I want to plea guilty but have my sentence considered/altered.

Important points I think:
-My only ever infringements have been:
*Riding outside 5am-10pm
*Doing so without 'L Plate" (so as to not get pulled over!)
And for the fine not yet received (pushing me over 100 demerits): Learner Rider exceeding 70kph.

-I have one speeding fine travelling at 55kph in a 50kph zone.

- I have been riding for 2 years now, and just after receiving my final fine of exceeding 70kph, I got my restricted. I have been very slow, I know, but have never failed a motorcycle license test, and had the restricted tester praise my riding abilities.

- I see no way that I have ever put other road users at risk with my riding (save the one 55kph fine) and am a careful road user.


Any advice is welcome, and I am open to criticism, but be aware I understand my wrong doing and take it on the chin, I just feel that the implications of a loss of license are far greater than I deserve for my non-dangerous offenses.

Any details required, let me know

- My anonymity is important, and would plead that everyone respect that.

If your work or education is reliant on a licence, you can apply for a work licence. the loss of licence for demerits is mandatory, that means it cannot be changed or waived, this is the reality, and it will not change, accepting this is the first step.
secondly, stop wanking about how you never endagered people etc, that means fuckall, you got tickets, youre losing your licence, end of story.

Now depending on how old your OLDEST ticket is, its possible to drag out the latest ticket, by challenging it etc, for a few months, untill the demerits from the oldest ticket drop off you record, then you wont be over when the new ones are applied. thats a long shot.

Another long shot is to go to the issuing officer and speak to him. explain that after receiving the ticket, you finally did the right thing and got your restricted, and ask if there is anything you can do. I highly doubt youll get anywhere.

Botoom line, reality is you fucked up and in all likelyhood, your licence is gone, consider it a lesson and stop making dumb excuses like noone was in danger, accept your fate, and find a way to work around it. Its only 3 months, athst really not a very long time at all, it will be a pain in the ass, but THATS THE FUCKING POINT!

Oh, and if you had the BALLS to post under your OWN account, and be honest instead of trying to be all secretive, people would be more likely to help you out. If you are unwilling to admit it outright, it probably shows that you havent accepted wrong, and havent learnt anything. In which case, why the fuck should anyone help you?

[Katman]

If you are unwilling to admit it outright, it probably shows that you havent accepted wrong, and havent learnt anything. In which case, why the fuck should anyone help you?

Fuck me, you've suddenly become a genius.

[FJRider]

My heart bleeds.

I'm on 90 demerits for the next twelve months and I require my license for my job.

If I get caught again I will deserve to lose my license.

Harden the fuck up.

We ALL know the rules .... and a few of us have found ourselves ... in similar circumstances ...

SUCH IS LIFE ...

[DrunkenMistake]

I see where your coming from, its a pretty stink situation, by the time you drag everything out, it could be a couple of months extra, and if you fail you lose your license anyway, just accept the fact you are going to lose it, and deal with the 3month pain in the ass,
Can you car pool with someone? may be your best bet or ask a mate from uni to pick you up or something if you chip in for some gas or a 12 pack a week.
Good on you for accepting responsibility though, it surprises me how many people make excuses.

On a side note if someone can answer this, How often do your points get reset? is it the start of every year? or when you move up a license class etc?

[tigertim20]

Fuck me, you've suddenly become a genius.

Fuck man, don't say that, or theyll all turn on me!

Im going to Guess . . .
Smokeu

[Blackshear]

You broke the laws which you are apparently well aware of - having passed not just a learners but a restricted.
I'm on 60 something demerits after 3 odd years of being on a learners, I was FOUR days from having them wiped before I was pinged for 115 in a 100. You eat shit, it tastes bad, you remember to not be hungry for a plate of shit again. It tastes bad, shit don't smell like waffles for a pretty sound reason.

Apply for a temp working license, claiming your job will be at stake (despite you being a silly billy) and hope for the best. It's really your only choice should your BS prayer fall through.

That aside, I do wish you the best for what seems to be a rather job specific problem you're having, perhaps your line of work is rather sensitive with your license being suspended?

Life is short, learn quickly my dear friend

[FJRider]

Fuck man, don't say that, or theyll all turn on me!

Im going to Guess . . .
Smokeu

The OP has NO balls ... therefore female ...

[tigertim20]

I see where your coming from, its a pretty stink situation, by the time you drag everything out, it could be a couple of months extra, and if you fail you lose your license anyway, just accept the fact you are going to lose it, and deal with the 3month pain in the ass,
Can you car pool with someone? may be your best bet or ask a mate from uni to pick you up or something if you chip in for some gas or a 12 pack a week.
Good on you for accepting responsibility though, it surprises me how many people make excuses.

On a side note if someone can answer this, How often do your points get reset? is it the start of every year? or when you move up a license class etc?

Demerits points remain on your licence for 2 years from the date they are applied.

When they are applied is a little different. They are applied when you pay the fine, OR when enforcement action is taken, so by contesting the fine, you can actually delay the points being applied to your licence. One of my old school friends got around the system doing that, his oldest ticket had been aplied 1 year, 10 months ago, so when he got a new ticket, he dragged it out, contested it, then just admitted it, after the oldest one dropped off, cos he dragged it out.

[roy.nz]

Do the crime pay the fine. You broke the law so why should it be the cops who have to feel like victim because you cant get to work and uni.

Shit happens, balls up about it and make a plan. Its not our problem

[Luckylegs]

Ooooo that reminds me, is it the 22nd of may yet, I get 30 (might be 35) points back... WOOT