some of this
with some of that
We have the technology. Would it cost too much?
some of this
with some of that
We have the technology. Would it cost too much?
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New Zealand has an enormous opportunity following the earthquake (silver lining and all that) to rebuild Christchurch as a cutting edge city.
Alternative modern building methods/materials
Alternative Zero Carbon (tm) power generation methods
All could, and should, happen.
But wont.....
There'll be bitching and moaning and complaining (and consultation with Iwi) until the cows come home and NZ will fuck up another opportunity.
Ya know, NIMBY and that.
Happy as long as it doesn't include double layers of red brick!
Why consult the iwi anyway? They sold us this dodgy land in the first place.
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So something like this?
You are correct, the bitching and moaning has already started, and will go on for years and years and years. Then eventually the minority with vested interests will get their way, and live will carry on no better than before.
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Originally Posted by neels
...on the nail...any great ideas will definitely not come from those with agendas and profit in their eyes...this is purely another collection of rorts going somewhere to fester..and we will have to put up with the squealing and mess...as kiwis always have and always will...visions come from visionaries who are not the most popular people in our dark little land...
Monoraaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaail....
The way I look at it. There are areas of liquifaction and seriously fucked roads. How do you reuse areas of liquifaction and fucked roads that are essentially gonna be written off/re-done? You certainly don't want to be putting buildings on top of it. So would you sink a single pile into a liquifactioned area that will only be weight bearing when a train goes overhead? Would you sink 8 piles (maybe less) to hold up a simple "stilted" train station? Would you turn the area of fuckedness into a carpark around the "stilted" station? Could you reuse those areas
Who knows, you could team up with Kiwi Rail and put in a system that runs from the ferry to Christchurch.
It may be a shit idea, but all of the above was inspired by a trip to Calagry in my younger, much happier years. Except they had trams and walkways across buildings. If the floor is so dangerous and unpredictable, then "raise" your game
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And people want to quibble about can't? These technologies are being used by other countries across the globe. Why not Christchurch?
It takes a country to implement vision. A govt certainly won't. Tis too much like hard work. Rock and Hard Place?
I'd start by talking to this guy. HE has been a visionary and pioneer since the start of more than 1 recent age.(and i bet he'd relish the prospect)
Last edited by mashman; 15th April 2011 at 11:11. Reason: added link
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Bulldoze what's left into the sea and move the whole thing 50km inland...weather'd be better for a start.
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Another retarded suggestion.... we're going to bulldoze the city into the sea because a tiny portion of it needs rebuilding?
Next plonker with stupid and/or big ideas and fuck all idea about how it'll be paid for please....
Oh, and given you get 4 times the rain and less sunshine hours in a year, you can shove your weather crack up your arse too.
Whatever happens, it will be done in the Kiwi way... Done on the cheap but still managing to waste vast amounts of taxpayer's money.
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$30,000,000,000 according to this link
If that's what it's going to cost, then the money is going to be found and spent anyway. Why not do something else with it instead of bleeding it away on "compliance" etc... fees.
I didn't think!!! I experimented!!!
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