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    that road needs more burnouts
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    I wonder if the upkeep of that section of road will now go to a user pays model, since members of the public are now prevented from using a public road.

    Put a toll gate on the bastard and no boy racers would go near it. Then watch the businesses and locals scream their tits off.

    More erosion of rights of the individual. There are plenty enough basic laws in this country to enforce anti-social activity in that area without this additional by-law.

    Provided a boy-racer is driving a roadworthy, legal vehicle in a safe, legal, responsible manner, then what is the problem?

    When they start driving recklessly/dangerously then there are plenty of laws extant.

    I wonder what next 'source of social turmoil' will be due for the great NZ Lebensunwertes Leben
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    Quote Originally Posted by neels View Post
    The natural traffic calming measures in chch are the best anti boy racer features yet, and the council didn't even have to pay or get permission. Win.

    We've got similar anti boy racer signs on the road to where we live, I have yet to be pulled up on my way in or out, my son has never been bothered or any of our visitors. So I guess police discretion must be working out our way, perhaps them cops up norf are a bit different and that's what the locals are twitchy about.
    Until one day the discretion goes against you. Then you don't have a leg to stand on. The point they were making isn't about stopping boy racers, it's about interpretation of law.
    You sit back and say "well it doesn't affect me, I'm fine" for one thing. Then another. Then another. The precedent is set - creep in one little bit of citizen control at a time. One day they won't let you ride your motorbike without paying a $500/year rego just because it's over 600cc. Oh wait, they've already done that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drunken Monkey View Post
    Until one day the discretion goes against you. Then you don't have a leg to stand on. The point they were making isn't about stopping boy racers, it's about interpretation of law.
    You sit back and say "well it doesn't affect me, I'm fine" for one thing. Then another. Then another. The precedent is set - creep in one little bit of citizen control at a time. One day they won't let you ride your motorbike without paying a $500/year rego just because it's over 600cc. Oh wait, they've already done that.
    The police seem to work out how much discretion they have by prosecuting a 'test case'.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Smifffy View Post
    The police seem to work out how much discretion they have by prosecuting a 'test case'.
    Yes, the old "let the courts decide" method. Lazy and expensive. What ever happened to well drafted law?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drunken Monkey View Post
    Yes, the old "let the courts decide" method. Lazy and expensive. What ever happened to well drafted law?
    To hard for the "old boys club" to argue their way out of it, this way they can charge everyone else & let their mates off
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    Quote Originally Posted by Drunken Monkey View Post
    Yes, the old "let the courts decide" method. Lazy and expensive. What ever happened to well drafted law?
    Somebody decided there wasn't enough of them, and didn't like the way the judiciary were interpreting them, so as in the case of the OP they started to go for quantity over quality.

    Very few of our modern social ills are actually new, and I'm yet to be convinced that any law or by-law passed in the last 10 years addresses any issue that couldn't have been handled by laws in existence before that, with just a little bit of common sense from the judiciary (who am I kidding?). Including laws drafted with respect to new technologies. The original laws were mostly very well drafted, and small amendments to add/expand definitions would have sufficed.
    Keep on chooglin'

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    [QUOTE=Scuba_Steve;1130075174]"An Auckland dairy owner was pinned against the wall when an elderly woman drove right in this afternoon."QUOTE]

    dont they have drive thru dairys up north yet?

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    [QUOTE=cynna;1130076058]
    Quote Originally Posted by Scuba_Steve View Post
    "An Auckland dairy owner was pinned against the wall when an elderly woman drove right in this afternoon."QUOTE]

    dont they have drive thru dairys up north yet?
    Nah - only drive-INS...
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    (I didnt read all the replies, just the first page)
    Your all looking at this wrong,
    he signs have gone up in the Bell Block and Waiwhakaiho industrial areas in the last three weeks and ban cars weighing less than 3.5 tonnes from being in the area between 7pm and 7am.
    Thats Prime sportsbike racing time right there, mwahahaha

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