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    What's going on in Christchurch?

    An email I received... (sorry bout the length)

    The Hotel Grand Chancellor is a story that needs to be told. Maybe a book someday! It was finally announced on Wednesday but it is the story behind the delay that is interesting. This story also applies to the rebuilding and repair of Christchurch which Fletcher Building are overseeing.

    The tender was to RCP (project managers for council) but was passed over to CERA once they arrived. CERA is staffed entirely by Fletchers employees.

    CERA delayed the announcement for a month to enable Fletchers to study the other tenderers info & submit a late bid. The day it was submitted CERA awarded them the tender. Fletchers price was 3 million higher than anyone else's!

    Fletchers have no intention of doing the demolition, taking the risk, or putting up the bond to cover the risk. They are just appointing themselves as project managers to clip the ticket & then getting the original tender winners to do the work.

    How did they get away with it? Do a companies search on Fletchers.

    http://www.business.govt.nz/companies

    They just got bought by the Reserve bank! RBNZ owns 275 million Fletcher shares while Hugh Fletcher now only has 5000. Its a SOE. A Govt department!!

    They bought themselves an income stream. They direct all the profits from the recovery straight into their own pockets instead of allowing the people of ChCh to make a bit each to help them recover.

    You have to admit it is clever!!

    But how on earth did they keep it out of the media?: NZ's largest Co gets bought by Govt & it doesn't make even the tiniest news report? Really???

    Here are a few questions for you to think about (oh, I'll make it easy: I will give you the answers as well)

    Q. Who appointed RCP (Resource Coordination Partnership Ltd) as Project Managers for the management of 'critical buildings' following the February
    22nd earthquake?
    A . Christchurch City Council under instructions of the NZ Government

    Q . Who appointed CERA?
    A . NZ Government.

    Q .. Who appointed Fletcher Building to manage the demolition works and then, reconstruction works?
    A .. NZ Government firstly, then CERA

    Q . Who is the main single shareholder of Fletcher Building?
    A .. NZ Government.

    Q . Who called for the tenders for the demolition of the Grand Chancellor?
    A . RCP

    Q .. Who is to be the Principle to the demolition Contract (i.e. the Payer)
    A . The Crown (NZ Government).

    Q . Who assessed the Tenders for the Demolition of the Grand Chancellor?
    A . RCP

    Q . Who has been awarded the Grand Chancellor job (at whatever price and/or conditions)?
    A . Fletcher Building

    Q . Who will make the profits?
    A . Fletcher Building (and it's Shareholders)

    Q . Who is the main shareholder of Fletcher Building? (I know, I already asked this one, but it could be a trick question)
    A . NZ Government as the Reserve Bank of New Zealand(no trick question, sorry)

    Q . Who has been blind-sided?
    A . Everyone involved in the (supposed) tender process firstly, but more importantly, the people of Christchurch and New Zealand who thought that
    they lived in a first-world economy.

    Q . What are the ramifications?
    A . Immediate loss of confidence by all independent Consultants and Contractors in the tender process if CERA, RCP or Fletcher Building are
    involved jointly or singularly in a government sanctioned role, for fear of a continued potential for a monopoly and huge profiteering there from.


    Q . Who are the winners?
    A . Fletcher Building and the NZ Government, along with the other Financial institutions that form the majority shareholders in Fletcher Building.


    Q. Who are the losers?
    A . The property owners, their tenants, clients and customers, along with everyone in New Zealand who believes in a 'level playing field', all the
    people of Christchurch, and all the people of New Zealand that have supported, volunteered their time and/or donated their hard earned, tax-paid
    monies to the recovery following the devastating events of February 22nd.”

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    Whilst I won't comment on what is a percieved conflict of interest I think it may be a good idea for the OP to note that CERA is actually managed and run by the State Services Commission.

    It will be interesting to note what the OAG office finds when it reviews this.
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    And you seem surprised by all this ????
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hellzie View Post
    They just got bought by the Reserve bank! RBNZ owns 275 million Fletcher shares while Hugh Fletcher now only has 5000. Its a SOE. A Govt department!!
    Except that it's not...if you actually do the companies search you'll see that 275million shares represents only 40% of the total number of shares...and that the subsidary of the Reserve Bank that owns the shares is its clearing house entity.

    http://www.rbnz.govt.nz/payment/nzclear/0091771.html

    Good conspiracy theory though, it's got the tiny grain of truth blown out of all proportion and everything.
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    ...maybe not the grand conspiracy of the decade ...but its still a Fletchers Rort..

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    As long as the money stays IN NEW ZEALAND ....

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    Quote Originally Posted by CAMSec View Post
    ...maybe not the grand conspiracy of the decade ...but its still a Fletchers Rort..
    You should check out Fletchers' history, find out who built most the state houses.

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    For fuck's sake. People who strive to create conspiracy theories should understand that the best ones at least have a bit of serious factual content.

    The fact that nonsense like this gets relegated to the dark spaces of the Internet rather than exposed to proper analysis and critique is another reason to either discredit absolutely or at least seriously discount it.
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    speaking from the over all Fletchers contracts ie: not just the GC building but all in general...

    Quote Originally Posted by Hitcher View Post
    For fuck's sake. People who strive to create conspiracy theories should understand that the best ones at least have a bit of serious factual content.

    The fact that nonsense like this gets relegated to the dark spaces of the Internet rather than exposed to proper analysis and critique is another reason to either discredit absolutely or at least seriously discount it.
    yeah well... Im working for them and what I have seen and had to do, well it aint right.


    Quote Originally Posted by Brian d'marge View Post
    As long as the money stays IN NEW ZEALAND ....
    .. what do you reckon, the quake is global, the worlds watching and jobs are going to tempory imports, why? cos they are cheap



    Quote Originally Posted by Hellzie View Post
    Q. Who are the losers?
    A . The property owners, their tenants, clients and customers, along with everyone in New Zealand who believes in a 'level playing field', all the
    people of Christchurch, and all the people of New Zealand
    Not all, some are making on the quake in a BIG way.
    cheers DD
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    Quote Originally Posted by dangerous View Post
    speaking from the over all Fletchers contracts ie: not just the GC building but all in general...


    yeah well... Im working for them and what I have seen and had to do, well it aint right.
    Care to elaborate D?Well as much as you can on the interweb anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 98tls View Post
    Care to elaborate D?Well as much as you can on the interweb anyway.
    Thers only one person thats going to get rich out of this and thats Mr Fetcher... its not just that but also the way its all being delt with ie: free heat pumps to some that never lost a thing in the quakes yet others have fucking big holes in their roofs and watch their belongings deterate day by day.
    cheers DD
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    Quote Originally Posted by dangerous View Post
    Thers only one person thats going to get rich out of this and thats Mr Fetcher... its not just that but also the way its all being delt with ie: free heat pumps to some that never lost a thing in the quakes yet others have fucking big holes in their roofs and watch their belongings deterate day by day.
    Yep pretty much as i thought.

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    Work is shortly to start on opening up our place so we've arranged for an engineer to look at it once the shit's out of the way as a crosscheck on what Fletchers want to do. He tells us he's already seen stuff done by Fletchers without consents which should have been consented prior to being done - and a couple which he says do not comply.....Checking with a building inspector we're told that down the track any comeback will be on the property owner at the time. - not Fletcher's or their sub contractor.
    Be alert as to what these legalised cowboys want to do to your property and if you suspect the work needs a consent, ask to see it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 98tls View Post
    Yep pretty much as i thought.
    Its not only that and Fletchers carry ons... a situation I know of at the moment is a house with a rooted concrete tile roof, ie: its letting in water causing more damage every day... well they have scofolding up but the contractor Mainland roofing refuse to do any more EQC work as they are already owed half a million, so this house sits becoming more damaged and a scafolding stands costing and not being used... its alll fucked up I tell ya.
    cheers DD
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