New Moto3 Honda

[Henk]

We should be concentrating more on getting some more national events in the mix so we can test the hard work people put in on the track.

Cheeky cheap dig time. (and not a shot at Rich)
We've had two rounds of the NI series and the feilds haven't been that big that people have been turned away or required to qualify.

And yes I know you are probably refering to events more along the lines of the TRRS on big tracks. I'm not sure why bucket racers are so unlikely to travel, I imagine it's partly because people come into the sport because it's cheap and easy and throwing $300 worth of gas in the van for a weekend away sleeping in a tent doesn't fit that picture. Shame really becuase the two rounds so far have been more fun than a bucket full of kittens. Having said that all rounds are being run on kart tracks at the moment which doesn't really allow the highly delevoped bikes out there to show their best. Not that I'm objecting, my shitter FXR is set up for goat tracks.

[Buckets4Me]

Who cares about moto3.

I want a class that pits 2 stroke against 4 stroke. A class that is consistently evolving. A class that the limits are pushed in engineering, chassis design and engine development. Oh wait I here F4 & F5 is like that. We get the best of both worlds. Ride what you like and race as hard as you want. It has something for everyone. The one thing I hate is when people fucken chop on about money. Who gives a shit as long as everyone is having a good time. We should be concentrating more on getting some more national events in the mix so we can test the hard work people put in on the track.

what he said x2


no one has managed to spend gazillions and beat everybody (yet!)

you can build a good nice looking bike for a fair price and be competitive
but you cant get away with turning up with a heap of junk anymore (I say thats a good thing)

[Henk]

but you cant get away with turning up with a heap of junk anymore (I say thats a good thing)

I disagree, you can still turn up with a cheap, nasty, old school cb125 single and have an absolute blast wobbling about in the B grade. That's what I did to start with and if it hadn't been as much fun as it was I wouldn't have persevered with it and gone down the FXR route in an attempt to stop falling off the bicycle profile tyres that were the only things that would fit.
I know of at least two guys up here on cheap slow bikes that are having an absolute blast.

[Gigglebutton]

Lets go the other way and imagine that you have a Gold Card and can spend rely big $$$$$$ on buying Bucket bits and development.
What would you get and would it be able to better TeeZee's home built engine.

Wobbly for engine and pipe design
Wobbly again for ignition and handmade parts like bare cylinder castings for outragish ports
Nigal No Mates for fabricating the pipe. (he is very good at it)
Stan Stephens UK for porting work.
RS Chasis from Japan or USA
Spare wheels and new slicks and wets
Robert Taylor for Oholins front and rear
RMS Eng for fitting the engine into the RS chassis.
Tripple Zee for Dyno Work

Shouldnt cost much.

[Buckets4Me]

I disagree, you can still turn up with a cheap, nasty, old school cb125 single and have an absolute blast

I agree with you there but your mates arn't hasling Karl or Dave or Tim Garry Rick or any of the other fast guys (and it's not because of a lack of talent now is it)

$100 shitter is not going to cut the mustard but it may get them hooked

[Buckets4Me]

Wobbly forengine and pipe deign
Wobbly for ignition and handmade parts like bare cylinder castings for outragish ports
Nigal No Mates for fabricating the pipe. (he is very good at it)
Stan Stephens UK for portints work.
RS Chasis from Japan or USA
Spare wheels and new slicks and wets
Robert Taylor for Oholins front and rear
RMS Eng for fitting the engine into the RS chasis.
Tripple Zee for Dyno Work

Shouldnt cost much.

that sounds like my bike

Rs frame (got)
Ohlins fround and rear (came with the frame)
spare wheels and wets (came with the frame)
Wobbly designed engine (shall we call it TZ wobbly designed) comming
rs pipe moded to suit (spare floating around from TZ)
ESE fitted the engine (done)
and the Dyno is a given (next time I get down there with the bike) thanks ESE again

watchout for a thread coming your way soon

18 h/p just isn't enough for me anymore

[Henk]

$100 shitter is not going to cut the mustard but it may get them hooked

$350 dollar shitter did it for me.

The standard of bikes has risen over the past few years and I don't see that as a bad thing. Tired old argument I know but it is more F4 F5 than buckets these days and I suspect that is one of the things that is helping the sport grow.

[Henk]

18 h/p just isn't enough for me anymore

But is 25 - 30 HP on it's own going to be enough to have you winning races?

[Buckets4Me]

But is 25 - 30 HP on it's own going to be enough to have you winning races?

I have won the odd race with 18 so I quess it cant hurt

(now if the dam swingarm had been bolted in)

[TZ350]

you can still turn up with a cheap, nasty, old school cb125 single and have an absolute blast wobbling about in the B grade. That's what I did to start with ........ guys up here on cheap slow bikes are having an absolute blast.

Inexpensive to get started.............

I want a class that pits 2 stroke against 4 stroke. A class that is consistently evolving. A class that the limits are pushed in engineering, chassis design and engine development. Oh wait I here F4 & F5 is like that. We get the best of both worlds. Ride what you like and race as hard as you want. It has something for everyone.

And yes Sir, I totaly agree.............

I think Buckets has to be the most affordable place to go hard out according to your taste, riding and/or tuning, best bang for buck anywhere.

[crazy man]

you have to have the money there and then

the best way to start is get and fxr shitter $500 -$1000 and start from that
then build up something els and sell the fxr (everyone wants one)

or if you want a 2 stroker strait off
get an old 250 4stroke bike and put the 2 smoker in it

so fzr tzr zxr cbr or nsr $500 ? and an engine $150 ? + tyres $100 so for around 1k you are up and running with a good bike

lm only going on what l'v seen here before dont even know why l got on to this lol l have about 10 buckets was mad in my day lol

[Ivan]

how many years has Aprilia been developing the 125GP bike to make that?

Years

The Moto3 bikes are brand new no development yet and are pushing a good starting base,


Now I hear people saying 4 strokes cost more to run i own and have raced a RS125 for 5 years dont race it any more and now race a Yamaha YZF450 I havent even done a single rebuild on it it doesnt need one the Yamaha dealer also said the same thing he said keep up the oil changes and checking it out and itl be sweet its done 140 hours,

140 hours of pure abuse as I know the last owner was abusive as to it and he never rebuilt it and he had it from new then me I thrash the living daylights out of it and its sweet these bikes are going to be good, And I also ride myne across 3-4 paddocks at a time tapped out in top gear as well so I have abused my engine


This is the future, it will get better to

[Henk]

lm only going on what l'v seen here before dont even know why l got on to this lol l have about 10 buckets was mad in my day lol

Get them back on track. or pass them on to someone who will, pleaase.

[crazy man]

Get them back on track. or pass them on to someone who will, pleaase.

l should get back out there the athritis is killing me in f3 buckets mite be what l should get back into

[bucketracer]

l have about 10 buckets was mad in my day lol

Would love to get my hands on a RG50 engine, parts or bike.