Hyosung 250 Cup

[RobGassit]

As usual, clear as mud. Read between the lines and take note of what is NOT clearly stated because that is where all the "Tuners " operate their magic. DOT tyres does'nt even mean DOT tyres if the DOT is on a German brand of wet. Why can't it be spelt out in black and white? This series has a tremendous opportunity to cement the awesome work already done in the reintroduction of a " GENUINE STOCK PRODUCTION CLASS" where the riders, NOT the tuners get to show their stuff. I wish it well but it NEEDS to be TRANSPARENT!!!

[Billy]

I'll be there no doubt, but if there is a Nats clash, I'll be missing the AMCC round for the Nats round.

Would be good if we could know what is & isn't allowed in the next few weeks/ where to find these details.

If everybody sticks to their proposed dates,Doing both series should be easily achieveable

As usual, clear as mud. Read between the lines and take note of what is NOT clearly stated because that is where all the " Tuners " operate their magic. DOT tyres does'nt even mean DOT tyres if the DOT is on a German brand of wet. Why can't it be spelt out in black and white? This series has a tremendous opportunity to cement the awesome work already done in the reintroduction of a " GENUINE STOCK PRODUCTION CLASS" where the riders, NOT the tuners get to show their stuff. I wish it well but it NEEDS to be TRANSPARENT!!!

Absolutely agree Bobbydazzler lol,thats why Im trying to get it sorted asap,At this stage I dont see the commission allowing powercommanders in the general rules for the class and I fully intend to enforce the rules as much as I possibly can on this one.

Something else thats been brought to my attention is the removal of a disc and caliper off the GT250R models,This is illegal and will be policed strictly

[RobGassit]

"Something else thats been brought to my attention is the removal of a disc and caliper off the GT250R models,This is illegal and will be policed strictly[/QUOTE]

Sneaky buggers, what next? Polished frames?

[Kiwi Graham:Me]

Thanks Mate,

Just one more question,Are those the supp regs that have been applied for through MNZ???If so can you confirm for me when they were approved and permit numbers please!!

Hi Billy,

Peter and Neil are discussing the use of Power commanders at the moment with the answer expected in the next couple of weeks if not sooner. Ken from Hyosung will be presenting their view of how they would like the series aligned with the current Pro Lite rules with the inclusion of PC's

The issues are; Carb bikes can change their jetting at a cost of a few cents but for injected bikes to do the same costs several hundred dollars.

The aim of this series is to produce close racing and by the looks of the interest it has generated very full grids.
The rules will be enforced to allow transparenty and fairness for all players, so make sure you dont take off what your not supposed to or add what is not allowed. In other words follow the rules.

As I see it the series will run according to MNZ'z Pro Lite regs with the possible addition of PC's thus allowing cross entry if desired.
Pro Lite regs here; http://www.mnz.co.nz/download/2010_MoMS_Appendix_I.pdf All entering should read carefully.

I will get a decision on the ruling when it is made and put it on here. Thanks Billy for asking the question, hope I've gone somwhere towards answering it and have asked the right questions of the right people to get a definative answer to you as soon as possible.

KG

[Billy]

"Something else thats been brought to my attention is the removal of a disc and caliper off the GT250R models,This is illegal and will be policed strictly

Sneaky buggers, what next? Polished frames? [/QUOTE]

Yea,Or fancy aluminium Bridgestone dust caps Oooops!!!

[Billy]

Hi Billy,

Peter and Neil are discussing the use of Power commanders at the moment with the answer expected in the next couple of weeks if not sooner. Ken from Hyosung will be presenting their view of how they would like the series aligned with the current Pro Lite rules with the inclusion of PC's

The issues are; Carb bikes can change their jetting at a cost of a few cents but for injected bikes to do the same costs several hundred dollars.

The aim of this series is to produce close racing and by the looks of the interest it has generated very full grids.
The rules will be enforced to allow transparenty and fairness for all players, so make sure you dont take off what your not supposed to or add what is not allowed. In other words follow the rules.

As I see it the series will run according to MNZ'z Pro Lite regs with the possible addition of PC's thus allowing cross entry if desired.
Pro Lite regs here; http://www.mnz.co.nz/download/2010_MoMS_Appendix_I.pdf All entering should read carefully.

I will get a decision on the ruling when it is made and put it on here. Thanks Billy for asking the question, hope I've gone somwhere towards answering it and have asked the right questions of the right people to get a definative answer to you as soon as possible.

KG

Thanks KG,
Yip,Im well aware of the discussions between Budda and Smudger,Im in regular contact with the roadrace commission and thats why I asked the question as I knew nobody had contacted them re this series,Its important the rules and supp regs are made known asap and are set in stone,There have been a number of press releases now that were contradictory regarding the use of PCs,It should also be clarified that the introduction of PCs will not mean Auto tunes as well !!!

The only approach made to the roadrace commission re this series was surrounding the inclusion of PCs by your club representative at the request of the 2 distributors supposedly whom are supporters of this class!!!!Since when???Where were they at round 1 of the Nationals when we were required to have no less than 6 bikes on the grid to have the class recognised???Seth was only there on his EX because I talked him into it and Max Woodruffe because I transported his bike for him.

[Kiwi Graham:Me]

Thanks KG,
Where were they at round 1 of the Nationals when we were required to have no less than 6 bikes on the grid to have the class recognised???Seth was only there on his EX because I talked him into it and Max Woodruffe because I transported his bike for him.

Tell me about it mate try running in a class of one

As soon as I know anything I'l let ya know mate.

[wayne]

i think tyre warmers should be allowed in class for better grip in first two laps.........

[puddytat]

i think tyre warmers should be allowed in class for better grip in first two laps.........

I dont....whether I have warmers or not I still cant keep up with the likes of Jock or Seth.
The reason I dropped out of clubmans & why i didnt go into F2 was because of the costs associated with tyre warmers & wth running slicks.I like the idea of a set of tyres doing me 2 seasons

[jellywrestler]

Sneaky buggers, what next? Polished frames?

Yea,Or fancy aluminium Bridgestone dust caps Oooops!!![/QUOTE]

$2 shop has an awesome range of these probably, they should be compulsory i'm thinking...

[jellywrestler]

not mean Auto tunes as well !!!

they should have enforced this at the Princess Diana Memorial concert a few years ago to.
I found some irony in the song 'Chasing Cars' by Snow Patrol being played.
Sorry for invading your thread, I'm going through withdrawal symptoms now the MNZ Nominations one is dead and buried!

[Autech]

A tyre brand should get behind this and sponsor a controlled tyre... Now THAT would be cool!

Shame I've moved down south otherwise I'd definitely be getting involved

[RobGassit]

A tyre brand should get behind this and sponsor a controlled tyre... Now THAT would be cool!

Shame I've moved down south otherwise I'd definitely be getting involved

Bridgestone might be keen as they supported most of the Nationals Prolites. Mr Ramage might be tempted if you promise him a knighthood or a bottle of single malt. Failing that,, I'm thinking Shinko or Kenda. Cheng shin anyone? Be like watching half mile flat track! Bring it on. May have to double up on Yellow Flags though.

[budda]

As usual, clear as mud. Read between the lines and take note of what is NOT clearly stated because that is where all the "Tuners " operate their magic. DOT tyres does'nt even mean DOT tyres if the DOT is on a German brand of wet. Why can't it be spelt out in black and white? This series has a tremendous opportunity to cement the awesome work already done in the reintroduction of a " GENUINE STOCK PRODUCTION CLASS" where the riders, NOT the tuners get to show their stuff. I wish it well but it NEEDS to be TRANSPARENT!!!

Not taking the piss Sir, but please READ the rules before you comment, eh ?
There is enough scope in the rules to allow "tailoring", but the intent is to actively discourage "fettling / faffing / fixing / farking about with" so the emphasis is correctly on the RIDER, not the bike.

The National Class rules are pretty clear and unambiguous, if the AMCC class aligns with those, there will be no issue ...........

[RobGassit]

Not taking the piss Sir, but please READ the rules before you comment, eh ?
There is enough scope in the rules to allow "tailoring", but the intent is to actively discourage "fettling / faffing / fixing / farking about with" so the emphasis is correctly on the RIDER, not the bike.

The National Class rules are pretty clear and unambiguous, if the AMCC class aligns with those, there will be no issue ...........

Rules have been read and re read thanks very much. My comments stand.