Jesus is a cunt

**Toaster** · 10th June 2011, 10:16

Originally Posted by HenryDorsetCase

this thread has it all, including Monty Python

No thread is complete without Monty Python or Blackadder!

**oldrider** · 10th June 2011, 10:25

Originally Posted by Banditbandit

Did you really say that?

I think you have picked me up wrong, the emphasis of my comment was supposed to be the difference between freedom to express unchristian comments as against the reaction from Islamic religion.

I was not actually supporting either of them! .... They all have much to answer for! IMHO.

**oneofsix** · 10th June 2011, 10:33

Originally Posted by oldrider

I think you have picked me up wrong, the emphasis of my comment was supposed to be the difference between freedom to express unchristian comments as against the reaction from Islamic religion.

I was not actually supporting either of them! .... They all have much to answer for! IMHO.

I don't think it is all down to the religion concerned. The Christian know that they get little to no support from the government or society but due to the western society cringe factor the Muslims and other other minorities know they can make outrages complaints and somebody will listen.

you can not say God bless in a school without risk of offending someone but you can have Yoga classes. Note no God was specified so the God bless is arguably applicable to most religions.

**HenryDorsetCase** · 10th June 2011, 10:52

Originally Posted by oneofsix

I don't think it is all down to the religion concerned. The Christian know that they get little to no support from the government or society but due to the western society cringe factor the Muslims and other other minorities know they can make outrages complaints and somebody will listen.

you can not say God bless in a school without risk of offending someone but you can have Yoga classes. Note no God was specified so the God bless is arguably applicable to most religions.

bullfuckingshit.

they're tax exempt for starters.

and then theres the appeals to the invisible friends everywhere: Parliament has prayers, "by the grace of god" this, and all that palaver. Exorcize it all, I say.

yes I chose that word deliberately

**oldrider** · 10th June 2011, 11:04

Religion really is entwined in our everyday speak etc!

How often do we hear people like talkback hosts berating religion and then ending the conversation with "God bless" FFS!

**Banditbandit** · 10th June 2011, 11:27

Originally Posted by oldrider

I think you have picked me up wrong, the emphasis of my comment was supposed to be the difference between freedom to express unchristian comments as against the reaction from Islamic religion.

I was not actually supporting either of them! .... They all have much to answer for! IMHO.

I think you are wrong about Islam ... There is as great a range in the Islamic world as there is in the Christian world ... There are many God-botherer groups who would be very upset and challenge you if you made unChristian remarks .. they pop out of the woodwork to picket films they don't like .. etc etc ... and are just as hard line as the Islamic Hardliners ... even to the point of terrorist killings ... have a look at the long list of terrorist activity by Christains here ...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-abortion_violence ... including one in New Zealand

And there are just as many moderate Islamic groups as there are Christian moderate groups ...

**HenryDorsetCase** · 10th June 2011, 11:54

Originally Posted by oldrider

Religion really is entwined in our everyday speak etc!

How often do we hear people like talkback hosts berating religion and then ending the conversation with "God bless" FFS!

never. I dont listen to talkback

**oneofsix** · 10th June 2011, 12:13

Originally Posted by HenryDorsetCase

bullfuckingshit.

they're tax exempt for starters.

and then theres the appeals to the invisible friends everywhere: Parliament has prayers, "by the grace of god" this, and all that palaver. Exorcize it all, I say.

yes I chose that word deliberately

The tax exemption is meant to be for the charity work they do. The homeless would be even more worse off without them. Hence why destiny ... nah another thread.

Again the god could apply to any religion but tend to agree with you. The French are giving it a go and pissing off all equally. If I as a devout biker can't where my helmet in to the bank then why should some chick be allowed to wear a scarf?

**Indiana_Jones** · 10th June 2011, 12:15

I don't see the harm in wearing a tasteless shirt lol.

If the shirt had said "Jesus can sit on it" some people would cry, but the general public would say 'cry me a river'

If it said "Rag heads can blow me up(crossed out)...off" then everyone would go 'oh my, you can't say that, you might offend someone!'

Like they're afraid of getting blown up......terrorism does work!

As for it being against the law as being offencesive purely because one person finds it offencesive, can we get ugly chicks banned? they're pretty offensive....

Like my spelling and grammer!

CUNT!

-Indy

**Grubber** · 10th June 2011, 12:52

Originally Posted by Paul in NZ

If you want to wear a t shirt that says 'I dont believe in Jesus' thats cool but wearing a shirt that says anyone is a c%nt is just a bridge too far.

Since only an immature attention seeking moron with a broken sense of community would wear such a garment, and goodness knows we have them by the bucketfull, I think possession should be automatic death penalty... That way you can get to see if indeed there IS a god and call him (or her) a C%nt face to face....

Just what i was thinking. Wouldn't want my kids walking down the street to be able to read such a thing on a T shirt. Not worried about the Jesus portion, but the other segment i can live without.

**oldrider** · 10th June 2011, 13:42

Originally Posted by HenryDorsetCase

never. I dont listen to talkback

Heavens to Mergatroid It's not something I advocate, simply an example!

Amazing how many people do and even more amazing it's a major part of their decision making process!

**Indiana_Jones** · 10th June 2011, 13:47

Better ban it!

-Indy

**oldrider** · 10th June 2011, 14:01

Originally Posted by Banditbandit

I think you are wrong about Islam ... There is as great a range in the Islamic world as there is in the Christian world ... There are many God-botherer groups who would be very upset and challenge you if you made unChristian remarks .. they pop out of the woodwork to picket films they don't like .. etc etc ... and are just as hard line as the Islamic Hardliners ... even to the point of terrorist killings ... have a look at the long list of terrorist activity by Christains here ...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-abortion_violence ... including one in New Zealand

And there are just as many moderate Islamic groups as there are Christian moderate groups ...

Well, staying with the OP, I found myself feeling offended by the said T-shirt and had to seriously ask myself ... why?

I think it is partly because of my upbringing and generational "standards" for the want of a better word!

I wouldn't want my Nanna to be confronted by one of those and I would want to protect her from any discomfort caused by it!

Neither the reference to Jesus nor the cunt word offends me, so why did I feel offended by it ... other than the generational thing, I have no idea!

We are a strange mixed up lot aren't we.