Compulsory Maori for teachers

**oneofsix** · 10th June 2011, 11:32

Originally Posted by MSTRS

In other news, Shrek the sheep died last week. His Hangi will be held tomorrow.

Now I understand why they were talking of sending him to Te Papa - for the Marae there

**Banditbandit** · 10th June 2011, 11:36

Originally Posted by oneofsix

I was forced to learn French on the same basis, didn't work and just turned me against it.
Lead don't force and then you will find willing people like yourself who will learn it.

I agree .. I managed to get Six Percent for School Cert French ... buggered if I know how I managed to get a mark that high ...

I'm not hung up on the compulsion ... I think it's off putting ...

**oneofsix** · 10th June 2011, 11:43

Originally Posted by Banditbandit

I agree .. I managed to get Six Percent for School Cert French ... buggered if I know how I managed to get a mark that high ...

I'm not hung up on the compulsion ... I think it's off putting ...

awl awl I know you turned up for the exam hence the extra 5%. Sons mate didn't even turn up at his French exam and still got 1%.

Seems we agree on the compulsion thing though. Funny as it may sound I was interested in learning Maori until it became pc, then I too could have been illiterate in two languages,

if I hadn't revolved against French I could have made it 3 and all badly pronounced to boot.

**MSTRS:Me** · 10th June 2011, 11:46

Originally Posted by Banditbandit

I'm not hung up on the compulsion ... I think it's off putting ...

Et tu, Brute?

**Banditbandit** · 10th June 2011, 11:48

Originally Posted by MSTRS

Et tu, Brute?

Naw .. I support the concept of teaching Māori and equiping people to deal with the different groups in our society and the languages they speak ...

But I'm just an anarchist at heart and resist compulsory anything ...

**jasonu** · 10th June 2011, 11:54

Originally Posted by Banditbandit

I'm sorry but Te Reo Māori is used every day in this country. I'm certainly surrounded by people who use it from preference as it is their first language ... you can hear it used on the street and shops of Whakatane every day ...

Well if they speak it in Whakatane shops and streets then clearly we all should be useing it...

**imdying** · 10th June 2011, 12:13

Originally Posted by jasonu

Well if they speak it in Whakatane shops and streets then clearly we all should be useing it...

Whakatane might not be the big smoke, but it's still New Zealand.

**avgas** · 10th June 2011, 12:16

I am all for teaching everyone Maori. The Chinese did similar with Mandarin, and it worked. (Yes that is right, Mandarin was MADE a national language).

However before we make everyone speak it, how about making it compulsory for Maori first. Say if you want to be on the Maori voting form.....from now on it will be completely in Te Reo, all information packs for it likewise.

I personally will just be happy if my son doesn't bark like a dog and cluck like a chicken. But with me being failed in English, Maori, French, Japanese and German and only really speaking Math. And me wife speaking Math, Mandarin, Shanghainese, English and a little Japanese he should hopefully end up with some sort of bastard language that will allow him to communicate to the people around him.

**jasonu** · 10th June 2011, 12:27

Originally Posted by imdying

Whakatane might not be the big smoke, but it's still New Zealand.

I am as Kiwi as the next bloke. Circumstances keep me here (hopefully for not much longer) but I keep a close eye on home. I haven't missed a general election vote yet and I bet there are a lot that have never left the country that can't say that.

Rather than learning the Maori language that really won't get you far in life (unless you live in Whakatane of course) I would rather see my kids learn Spanish as that is a language that is used in many parts of the world.

**admenk** · 10th June 2011, 12:33

As one of the official languages of NZ, it would seem sensible that Maori is taught to a decent level in schools

Back home in the UK, kids in Wales now learn English and Welsh at school, and I don't think the sky's caved in yet. I took a Te Reo Maori course last year and it was one of the most enjoyable learning experiences i've had (and you know how bad us poms are at other peoples languages!) Without going into all the political crap, what's wrong with promoting a language that's from the country you're living in?